Newsgroups: php.general,php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.general:325716 php.internals:95487 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19072 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2016 03:56:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Aug 2016 03:56:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.43 mail-it0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.43] ([209.85.214.43:35378] helo=mail-it0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DE/9A-34481-9D062C75 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 23:56:11 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f43.google.com with SMTP id x131so55726854ite.0; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:56:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=MWEsWv645Mx1raS17A+wXTMOwF5IAoAWTzO2AKuzECA=; b=xXq+BQ1ZdI+5o7XT3LlMik/CKUNgwpA6IXHu6g5Vb0b8zA4e6aI4IjK1Z1SavxyqT+ wFpqrojc8fzA2j0gct1ebvahIVrcDDERJ7AnFVlV9fp69BaIUGhad2LPeOb+TKdg4aUJ E3GfZiOG1LednhCaZYrD3BJeMc7DrvN63bNrrrJJmX6aNR7GN3tcRCo4WcQNO4+/h4Ex DINyOufNiKNpsNcppXY8+UNOnRB7SWjz5+AskHKsjsetAy3o1ufV2HL3B8vOti3wGgJP MkjGQdjZSh1dnIOO5L5/QBhDBsl0/7ENkn1WPJZrnQAg2L6JJytvqX35ucqr/hnuM/xH BM0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MWEsWv645Mx1raS17A+wXTMOwF5IAoAWTzO2AKuzECA=; b=TnRPgJtw4D3WW6H5DHHhAThGdSy7Qd2pcdjCdWN1XmzzT1I8idKaB5Fy3mOrm8vI+6 SEFAtHTypmo8lwbqozevqRrhkZKMX6U96Ijmhra7r0k0iSx2gCETfhwhhh6S0j/CwAQt bFCeB9kXTvSxY8M/QLa172aNNlNbSh4dTKSq3TpFAyCOXl5ifbR6ZV+cPfwsz5IOj+BW 30fdGGfVpKdKTm/Pb/OdlME0X/dtf4jNyUxfD2qevQeh7rpPer6tfbpYQjHYk10CXwUd HrRBSULpICWwTr9SqOy+ymLUdjfJg10ys9JmrIrPX8iUIOxBPVyk+Gvw7COFau9zvU3k bJGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPnZRf03oYDd7KPK1lbfdtAe9yO9Qzg7eZg/zRJDBYaku/3fSed1mm77cYj8hi+lx3FF8fjVBtorl7ymQ== X-Received: by 10.36.223.196 with SMTP id r187mr7372466itg.2.1472356566407; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:56:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.48.77 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 05:56:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hVGMBVaCRYnbIT058js4iSXIO5A Message-ID: To: Rene Veerman Cc: php-general@lists.php.net, Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] feature-request : html + css logging in apache logs (example for the rest of the unix community too) From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Hi 2016-08-28 5:07 GMT+02:00 Rene Veerman : > > it would really cut my development time in more than half if you could add > "all of this" (it's deadsimple and a few hours work imo) to the next > versions of PHP (and please make it the default, you can include sample CSS > or read in a CSS file that you set in php.ini (comment on how to do this in > the logfile html please)).. The best way to accomplish this is to make an RFC[1], detailing this carefully, in a well-phrased manner. Side note here, despite it may be "deadsimple", it may not be so simple to just change PHP to act as you want in the next release, PHP is used by hundreds of millions, this means that anything that can change PHP's behavior must be analyzed, and it is very rarely we do such changes in minor releases. This means that the next release, if you write an RFC, should target PHP 7.2.0. For a feature like you propose, or as to how I read it, it would most likely never become default, but if it did get implemented in PHP, it would most likely be an opt-in feature. Sorry, but it is the harsh reality. Again, like mentioned on the php-general@ list, please keep to the mailing list rules, as linked in regards to top posting, and please do not embed huge chunks of code into mails, send a link to a paste bin instead, it makes the code rather hard to read and understand properly. Thanks [1] http://wiki.php.net/rfc -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen PHP Core Developer kalle@php.net