Newsgroups: php.general,php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.general:325707 php.internals:95478 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 79217 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2016 01:42:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Aug 2016 01:42:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.178 mail-qt0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.178] ([209.85.216.178:36597] helo=mail-qt0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7E/D1-34481-C8142C75 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 21:42:36 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 52so54454559qtq.3; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:42:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0lD2uivRhYedQP0x3VKvEzhCpb4LOoS78bi3bVqBXas=; b=WYHtX+LHwgGR2v97haHgtyfbTyTSU54ECF3p8adWJ3mh66mqWi8sRuQR2FULjpcaz0 3DP/WY4Xih9lHVCVikdL5LhgRt5ggbdRr8LF76mwLMwkduWSQdD6hBY1D5OB7TtF73DX xC1aJfkaMK8eq1teOaJGt1o8ucszDmR/kqYGeohdWJrVYJXwsqgrcJQ0rB0B/N3ApAFl n5WBldMV2hKjKINSaIAGUuvW3ckTWptQzmc4pY5Z1BN8OilNr2TdPfZLFFlud9+Rrsk8 HMelTm/hxH1pj9CUkI+5s2i61/ZMnSlJS4RWCPb3qOA1jar49l52TPyjTip5Ml/E9unc 3iWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0lD2uivRhYedQP0x3VKvEzhCpb4LOoS78bi3bVqBXas=; b=FHPVipZuiDp1S9bMlSwIs8qG3F0w93j/RgeNMStkEZb+whzEPFEcCpAEIWstrXnEEj xhE3ADhxT2fEDQGevna/hh//PUXP80xVdslrp4csR0Ng68D+lH+eBifPfqzLg9ONmJbv +GNDtLb8ZH0W78MHin7++qWAoxO3AdLcBGHkgtKOOXOQrQXnqSzzFm5FgpvOJPjqF19p wAu0cCMambn25o1k9VbanAVkG2yVzYKFXdMVfjMtBsuFFE3+VJ5ys+lpsOpgVC0R79M9 ceyts+6ra3o0sDFwngwX+uPaesi0K1/3sHeL1/dLaZo80MM7NDYXTpwBhppbudbssFJ6 /O3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMSOf0XXKUpDWZKJa1B8bKBy9wlSPdxFUgPxGpbvgX5tf4Zwz11N4xiCehsHir9SYZm/ReJrlFewfoXJA== X-Received: by 10.200.43.47 with SMTP id 44mr11483325qtu.66.1472348553959; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:42:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.52.68 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:42:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5E615A59-AC2B-455F-9438-D295419F3767@ashleysheridan.co.uk> <33E6F0A8-A14B-4590-A18C-FF6D6E029D0A@gmail.com> <3B285FFA-4C62-421D-A5B5-E5F205C53C02@gmail.com> <93D96A8A-0AFA-4378-B3F1-E7CA8E68C8B6@ashleysheridan.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 03:42:13 +0200 Message-ID: To: Joshua Kehn Cc: php-general@lists.php.net, internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c11ba28b5efd053b17dc0e Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching From: rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com (Rene Veerman) --001a11c11ba28b5efd053b17dc0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i did notice the -jk (meaning u were joking).. but i really dont appreciate trolling on subjects as fundamental (and to me at least; important), ok.. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Joshua Kehn wrote: > On 27 Aug 2016, at 21:26, Rene Veerman wrote: > > From: Ashley Sheridan ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk > Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:03 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching > To: Rene Veerman rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com > > Please don't top-post. > > Nginx was probably suggested as a lightweight web server, instead of > Apache. I can't say I've ever seen both used at the same time. > > Any developer who is serious about their career has an understanding of h= ow > web servers work and the server caching capabilities. If they don't, I > think it's fair to say they're still pretty junior and ideally would be > helped by a more senior developer. > > I struggle to understand why you're making PHP responsible for trying to > cache js files that are only requested by the front end. It feels like > you're overcomplicating things somewhat. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rene Veerman rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com > Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching > To: Ashley Sheridan ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk > > i'll top-post whenever i like.. don't tell other ppl how to format > documentation / discussions, please. > > and to answer to your comment : i strongly disagree. it makes sense for > those working on complicated webapps to limit the number of knowledge poo= ls > they must master and keep up to date.. > hell, i dont even get into canvas and webgl because the knowledge domain = is > so large and different from *my domain*; HTML, JS, CSS, JSON.. > seriously, you can not expect complicated beautiful apps to be written fo= r > browsers until you recognize that limitation on human ability.. > > Works on =E2=80=9Ccomplicated webapps=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Climits number= of knowledge pools=E2=80=9D are > opposites. You need to find the right tool for the job. In this case, PHP > is not the right tool. > > --jk > --001a11c11ba28b5efd053b17dc0e--