Newsgroups: php.general,php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.general:325706 php.internals:95477 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74074 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2016 01:39:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Aug 2016 01:39:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.182 mail-qk0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.182] ([209.85.220.182:36595] helo=mail-qk0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E4/A0-34481-EC042C75 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 21:39:26 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f182.google.com with SMTP id l2so110017123qkf.3; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:39:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=I+7nBr3p0Z9NNYeZwNx7t6NYfQx3fkTUfK5Oi5MvF3M=; b=CbWNKeqaIlgjfYTzUGls7Qob+RYiHerrXdNOlpTi3UtcrE1O7LjfBv8PfJ3nI0vRlX GIQj/jPZT22h/8seQzxVmEmsYqoHmThF5HV+QxwjUGKbVxjF9qX0dwQpoPDCFkz1GqSD KwYlmFT/8+iXynuk+XyyTjjmNkyVD7+c2rtE3l3/RXaIQm2+uh9vYklMoiKJvER8olzT W2co2mSOIvJyTIo1WvjNJbr+r5gYJhEr6NBSxDIAaADHdo+ryBcms4gFDdyEWLq/qlR8 yJ+M6fXxWidkC7xu4QOamASeRx1iRBIemlWZsNqARQlDMx/3jNa3ks+WF4lVXAbaCC6V tnew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=I+7nBr3p0Z9NNYeZwNx7t6NYfQx3fkTUfK5Oi5MvF3M=; b=WSe5D7+qZQE8LqUT5nQT0+/D7SzPHc4rt+e7TH/8nSSfCKw9dq2kGO+CRMSjyw8DqY N2KF4RRqQ/WSz9sS8eswMY598buKAtFQeKLuy3ebbv/uR+wv9/EOsVwRhAT62Ufhx1Wl xDCUhZGDntAFsS4NtWFvIG/JpDDfOVhYVsYO9r5MmE52fBS2FDvi56FJ/2IfGPPfknhB MM0ShJwfRG+5KqlXOUe8dUgJlcufvd4HFdmxvcwEgYpSzIbHJ582aZs9lHqWKM9YDi2j 6xtx1/4/ERY06Q1cUYphTQvIXyRD+cJ40WjL3Ba+gKR5AyltDUj4/h7eEys+S9X97G3T jidw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwN0o9WNLu0xj6A7Bt6hO5t186fzcV3E5V2SmKA71cpxmtc0Wc7WNSY3ibCyxh7qxEv6M6fPfzcJf446AA== X-Received: by 10.55.112.193 with SMTP id l184mr11868650qkc.116.1472348363760; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:39:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.52.68 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:39:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5E615A59-AC2B-455F-9438-D295419F3767@ashleysheridan.co.uk> <33E6F0A8-A14B-4590-A18C-FF6D6E029D0A@gmail.com> <3B285FFA-4C62-421D-A5B5-E5F205C53C02@gmail.com> <93D96A8A-0AFA-4378-B3F1-E7CA8E68C8B6@ashleysheridan.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 03:39:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: Joshua Kehn Cc: php-general@lists.php.net, internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114fe870352ce4053b17d1f6 Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching From: rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com (Rene Veerman) --001a114fe870352ce4053b17d1f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable with all due respect, you sound like you don't know what you're talking about ok.. i rest my case at the arguments i presented, confident it'll convince the internals team (which is what this is *about*, ok).. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Joshua Kehn wrote: > On 27 Aug 2016, at 21:26, Rene Veerman wrote: > > From: Ashley Sheridan ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk > Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:03 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching > To: Rene Veerman rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com > > Please don't top-post. > > Nginx was probably suggested as a lightweight web server, instead of > Apache. I can't say I've ever seen both used at the same time. > > Any developer who is serious about their career has an understanding of h= ow > web servers work and the server caching capabilities. If they don't, I > think it's fair to say they're still pretty junior and ideally would be > helped by a more senior developer. > > I struggle to understand why you're making PHP responsible for trying to > cache js files that are only requested by the front end. It feels like > you're overcomplicating things somewhat. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rene Veerman rene.veerman.netherlands@gmail.com > Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching > To: Ashley Sheridan ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk > > i'll top-post whenever i like.. don't tell other ppl how to format > documentation / discussions, please. > > and to answer to your comment : i strongly disagree. it makes sense for > those working on complicated webapps to limit the number of knowledge poo= ls > they must master and keep up to date.. > hell, i dont even get into canvas and webgl because the knowledge domain = is > so large and different from *my domain*; HTML, JS, CSS, JSON.. > seriously, you can not expect complicated beautiful apps to be written fo= r > browsers until you recognize that limitation on human ability.. > > Works on =E2=80=9Ccomplicated webapps=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Climits number= of knowledge pools=E2=80=9D are > opposites. You need to find the right tool for the job. In this case, PHP > is not the right tool. > > --jk > --001a114fe870352ce4053b17d1f6--