Newsgroups: php.general,php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.general:325704 php.internals:95475 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71661 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2016 01:37:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Aug 2016 01:37:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=josh.kehn@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=josh.kehn@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: josh.kehn@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.177 mail-qt0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.177] ([209.85.216.177:34177] helo=mail-qt0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 76/10-34481-67042C75 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 21:37:58 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u25so54402531qtb.1; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:37:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M0rZGWssFshdPAyqA3KBTbnlzfM9NznhH5Q+X3pBjD4=; b=U9dHnpfi8JVVgtle/zbbWdwnQZ5uI/4XNAJg71S1o0LluI4ZLE7MCjHkVG/MrbGqbY pNeEv2E3QOUo5QPhKbVrrkeZyzxu/8sIwdgK/Lk4VgzpatGY8YGncNANTWCfV71W0QWF rJ6ppA0aFNT+PsilHcqFTSHcoXSHRaw9DrP0nDPMzhyjAzd+VdshFrl9mQmxUB2mq48G BoqCExaIvO9FGIVxiPEzFGwZ15xzkwmGbPih0GwW00cIC0qDhN8mdRuchnj1BXB6p3i9 KVejjI7ZR9hJM1czQBFtOD9sqbuxc1PZDHzztvdouZTkyEYbded7meNgfYNd2cVP+63V 6fiQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M0rZGWssFshdPAyqA3KBTbnlzfM9NznhH5Q+X3pBjD4=; b=JSQSLZ+FUwW8I0NA8dacvIotjr/bnQEPPssHWjYOPXEOa94esu1gtliNXakdxfMN3i yM6KAG8iJqFDA5433qXcexJEJLN5P/lOR+Q4NM+fgyeVLn6BuV1b0xI9TlwSwJSdJP24 Dk5KhaaPkWTJN6w9eKURYMlx8hiszPW2upsHWBAP69ZRdSzPpYg20GbhjfAuQobrkvmS 6Lc7e2qr1rwIEY4oY7owNRckIEK0EL/X+2OWFOKxTCj54jcraIfSHzT038yhlyUzLlXy OnEwsvTfPoP2Ue/uc88UGVKeTH7QEBaq40F8cNtpP0TKkyV5uVI7B1GaUZgDhcZ9p+BT H1Iw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwP1TZi6YDZB1mtlQIMZ5XCLIOQR8LDqbxVDGCsbFa7pOVilHCRDdEPu3iYTncx+Gg== X-Received: by 10.237.55.65 with SMTP id i59mr11950149qtb.62.1472348275964; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.1.4] ([108.61.47.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w16sm14484145qta.10.2016.08.27.18.37.54 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:37:55 -0700 (PDT) To: "Rene Veerman" Cc: php-general@lists.php.net, internals@lists.php.net Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 21:37:54 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <5E615A59-AC2B-455F-9438-D295419F3767@ashleysheridan.co.uk> <33E6F0A8-A14B-4590-A18C-FF6D6E029D0A@gmail.com> <3B285FFA-4C62-421D-A5B5-E5F205C53C02@gmail.com> <93D96A8A-0AFA-4378-B3F1-E7CA8E68C8B6@ashleysheridan.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_MailMate_F9118B65-EFB8-4053-954B-42CA2C66948A_=" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.4r5234) Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching From: josh.kehn@gmail.com ("Joshua Kehn") --=_MailMate_F9118B65-EFB8-4053-954B-42CA2C66948A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 27 Aug 2016, at 21:26, Rene Veerman wrote: > From: Ashley Sheridan > Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:03 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching > To: Rene Veerman > > > Please don't top-post. > > Nginx was probably suggested as a lightweight web server, instead of > Apache. I can't say I've ever seen both used at the same time. > > Any developer who is serious about their career has an understanding > of how > web servers work and the server caching capabilities. If they don't, I > think it's fair to say they're still pretty junior and ideally would > be > helped by a more senior developer. > > I struggle to understand why you're making PHP responsible for trying > to > cache js files that are only requested by the front end. It feels like > you're overcomplicating things somewhat. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rene Veerman > Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching > To: Ashley Sheridan > > > i'll top-post whenever i like.. don't tell other ppl how to format > documentation / discussions, please. > > and to answer to your comment : i strongly disagree. it makes sense > for > those working on complicated webapps to limit the number of knowledge > pools > they must master and keep up to date.. > hell, i dont even get into canvas and webgl because the knowledge > domain is > so large and different from *my domain*; HTML, JS, CSS, JSON.. > seriously, you can not expect complicated beautiful apps to be written > for > browsers until you recognize that limitation on human ability.. Works on “complicated webapps” and “limits number of knowledge pools” are opposites. You need to find the right tool for the job. In this case, PHP is not the right tool. --jk --=_MailMate_F9118B65-EFB8-4053-954B-42CA2C66948A_=--