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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] orphan extensions cleanup
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

On 18/08/16 08:08, Daniel Morris wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, at 06:58 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
>> Can you justify that statement!
> 
> A quick comparison on Google Trends will show this, since the beginning
> of 2013 Couchbase has been more popular, GitHub also has more PHP
> projects for Couchbase than Interbase.

Well Github figures are a problem where Hg is more popular amongst
Firebird users and financial services secure systems tend not to publish
their use of code at all. Firebird is used as a free alternative to
Oracle in many large services and at one time Interbase ran much of the
US emergency services - until Borland decided to end of life it in 1999.
For some reason they did not know just how important Interbase was to
many people :(

> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, at 06:58 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
>> I'd add that PHP5.2/3 is more widely used that PHP7 ...
> 
> Interbase will continue to exist 5.{2,3,4,5,6}, and as you're not really
> keen to upgrade (30% of your clients are still on 5.2, despite it
> reaching end of life over five years ago, and 5.3 reached end of life 2
> years ago), removing it from PHP7 shouldn't cause you too much concern,
> since (based on your current pace of upgrading) you won't be switching
> to PHP7 until 2024.

http://php7.lsces.org.uk/ and Firebird is running fine!

The problem with bringing PHP5.2/3 users forward is that nobody can be
bothered to help them. I simply don't have enough time to move the
clients I HAVE got over and I've now stopped taking any more of that
business on simply because there are not enough hours in the day. NOW it
looks like I have to find time to keep the C side of things working as
well ... something that is a lot easier for someone who knows WHY they
are changing the way something works inside PHP as happened with PHP7.
Firebird did not change so the client library is still the same!

Even moving the sites that I HAVE already pulled up to PHP5.6 over to
PHP7 requires additional work and testing so I resent your suggestion
that I'm taking too long doing all this work. Perhaps it is time to give
up even trying to help PHP!

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Lester Caine - G8HFL
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