Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95241 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1780 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2016 18:02:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Aug 2016 18:02:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.43 mail-wm0-f43.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.43] ([74.125.82.43:35120] helo=mail-wm0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E3/59-36656-42553B75 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:02:13 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id f65so156101306wmi.0 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YFNU0Ke+xfMybmwTwlZkeTkhUrkiFWUYMnxEl3o/jvM=; b=nkbPdMimm9JcK01RO7eoJ+oiDJ5RAxp3GxptRwDca7Eore0JYeZAIzBLThhuwNJYXR 1AIm60wLA4Wd+jYRbUKz1YNWpOFk0c9pN50hiYwc99rJz28dlAvkM3GZaJ+RSAWeMbW7 d2bH3InU+ym76in3eotu8hhfpouaQyCJE6Y4GRtS+qWaoW0Gk/PDSVgtK46aP2pTwoQT oHgtk3vGwG8c+T63l2ijvsDk+EjJsifKhWPjdC7fGmDiw7cTAOZqsZ2z62k5dW1iMcof 8RPLUsH2rWd3geRrtJ8RHdp1CnNsl/FZtToLtYdDy+jNfxXm38efklmud4UcR9eeatwZ T2cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YFNU0Ke+xfMybmwTwlZkeTkhUrkiFWUYMnxEl3o/jvM=; b=SjeO6OYjpYupEvQqnitCW5odVObjYC7hD/EbdjEzOBQ1ee8WAiygBlNGOTJGYrd7GW qp9YyoFsxZgBk96qb/N83ViPSU8WqZTliDvILLZTvOVp7QkaicTyDVgtvlpOA1t06M1m ZV80979nUBoQM2N+e7c+nF+BHxHXP1/L4Q6bNvqnR7Zw5jYRyqshAxqUvh7fisnbuFpk auViWVGxze3J0EC2dO39lccsLwfaR6UKWiPVybaf5Spnyst5NupF4dpzPSSEZoVLP+D5 etsL6Bsof1HBk1Qkni1g+j173wSUk1KVMTV6rR1a8Cg7RmTR1QvKcl5IU1jPyQviq2uS z9nQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousu1151N6XjT2cMgY3lXScgZ7l1aHSE459oN9BlLLNXTgBgetf92IGkDWVl4xntjw== X-Received: by 10.194.110.162 with SMTP id ib2mr38480361wjb.163.1471370529473; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.98] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g67sm22847334wme.5.2016.08.16.11.02.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <15538953-0065-ad02-cfed-26f9c04fea18@gmx.de> Message-ID: <385cc972-97ae-db9c-30b6-2939d0bd2a5f@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:00:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15538953-0065-ad02-cfed-26f9c04fea18@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][DISCUSSION] Remove utf8_decode() and utf8_encode() From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 16/08/2016 18:15, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > Unless a new active maintainer steps forward, we should consider to move > ext/xml to PECL, in which case the deprecation of utf8_(en|de)code might > be unnecessary. I don't think that really follows at all. Until this week, I had no idea that utf8_(en|de)code had anything at all to do with ext/xml, and I can pretty much guarantee that the majority of people using them also have no idea. Whether or not we happen to be removing all the functions in an extension, before we can move anything to PECL, we still need to consider who is using it, and what the appropriate deprecation time frame is. To be honest, I don't think *any* of the functions in that extension can be removed without a decent period of deprecation, because however horrible and unmaintained they are, they are extremely widely used. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]