Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:95000 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93750 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2016 11:14:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2016 11:14:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=michal@brzuchalski.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=michal@brzuchalski.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain brzuchalski.com designates 188.165.245.118 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: michal@brzuchalski.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.165.245.118 ns220893.ip-188-165-245.eu Received: from [188.165.245.118] ([188.165.245.118:40462] helo=poczta.brzuchalski.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FD/14-08042-2AC0BA75 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 07:14:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by poczta.brzuchalski.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BE3298423C for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:14:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from poczta.brzuchalski.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (poczta.brzuchalski.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iHds-KfEGO9S for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:14:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-qk0-f179.google.com (unknown [209.85.220.179]) by poczta.brzuchalski.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C5E6298423A for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:14:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qk0-f179.google.com with SMTP id t7so39660508qkh.0 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 04:14:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuAsc8FkYp3fG+i/PK9NHTckZa72HaVCHsCEBCG8L2oT7fQqryjFii7GYI/LLlROl4SBaAEZPKEtBbHnw== X-Received: by 10.55.50.13 with SMTP id y13mr3327910qky.233.1470827676508; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 04:14:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.53.155 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 04:14:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9ccdcfcd-7a1c-42df-c893-398781e1f1d2@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:14:35 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114715ec2f2ddc0539b5c107 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Function auto-loading From: michal@brzuchalski.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Brzuchalski?=) --001a114715ec2f2ddc0539b5c107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Peter and @Rowan: Very good point and sounds reasonable, I also thing there is need for evolution. Idea of fork PHP and never update made me laugh to tears :) 2016-08-10 11:42 GMT+02:00 Rowan Collins : > On 10/08/2016 09:51, Lester Caine wrote: > >> There is not a 'single solution' that will fit the vast range of users >> of PHP but current targeting seems to be aimed at a subset of both >> coding style and practice at the expense of perfectly safe and >> functional existing code. >> > > This entire thread is about trying to find ways for a new feature *not* t= o > be "at the expense of" anything. If you don't want autoloading, that's > fine. It was fine in 2004 when PHP 5 first allowed it; it was fine in 200= 9 > when PHP 5.3 introduced namespaces; and it will be fine in 2017 even if w= e > add something new to PHP 7.2. > > Perhaps rather than complaining that people are focussing on the "wrong" > improvements to the language, you could come up with some well-thought-ou= t > suggestions of things you *would* like to see added. > > Regards, > -- > Rowan Collins > [IMSoP] > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --=20 pozdrawiam -- Micha=C5=82 Brzuchalski --001a114715ec2f2ddc0539b5c107--