Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:94993 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80545 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2016 09:38:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2016 09:38:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: peter.e.lind@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.54 mail-wm0-f54.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.54] ([74.125.82.54:36860] helo=mail-wm0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EF/61-08042-406FAA75 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 05:38:12 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q128so81879478wma.1 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:38:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Zb1suk4+FNz6na1HdDN0mcmL+2cpHwctftZfGRB81LI=; b=B9EBZvYoyC7u2YU4AVvhHGqQtyFxwlhvh+gFBJsI1k9AmlrQ0a3MitPfkVGqUwdc99 Hm8ZU/4gM1X8cno478CrUlewsYlE8kbUrWrDn+1cmDUrMsjM3wq4qO/PBKaZQYXkICQB dUYD2HmBKEWrwcQuN/8mogQ7SKjvOscMWO4Uc+uRZIZqgLoC8HtYeZYhy/cH4Vgd27Da mza0/Pz4l/9dzT6MAi0nBokksSK6pmT3mIJM3GcVcYY7YKuTdT1k8ASP1hr2XWlTM/U0 2HbnrJwekmGqeKlI31Kb48G/+mzIBLQXQvy/UQWP9BQWZxxAc2G999l1YkWwTpz25krC pQ3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Zb1suk4+FNz6na1HdDN0mcmL+2cpHwctftZfGRB81LI=; b=FUd4HIawI63+UUkzivqZvJJSAwug3pySaAEaC8jq0BuHWE7x8nubCnfCy6DWK/A3G4 uMtGcyBZ63SmB5soJQWdG9qCzJzxQSsruLeh6Gt0B1JCEljfNjdqVqfbLY3q5T1gzb4c oZ9d9m6UQQ3q0HCxaI98LBnawGwPGlgR1zbVRTjhu/x3TvyKubZR2MZP/XO9Cc6HrNnK Dvbm725vivjfKfbenwm80an2g1HxFfr/De6ZH7toQhwGbdZp/zfh/yicn5+hBiRkrT5g jB+DVstHALtx1gQ4YWs6aQc7WkjOefpTiyaedbKDcIqteCGWGwCDpejSHk6GK9wBX6dP 949g== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuxeP03pc3w3bGf55+yQiBhQbp1ZZlgDiLpJRKfP40vnnPk4L9z4CYTiPhXE7NZEgSvdltKpvOd+GEW4g== X-Received: by 10.194.189.84 with SMTP id gg20mr3721112wjc.21.1470821889483; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:38:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.123.163 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:37:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9ccdcfcd-7a1c-42df-c893-398781e1f1d2@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:37:48 +0200 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb03fa0402c4b0539b46811 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Function auto-loading From: peter.e.lind@gmail.com (Peter Lind) --047d7bb03fa0402c4b0539b46811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 10 August 2016 at 10:51, Lester Caine wrote: > On 09/08/16 06:54, Sara Golemon wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > >> So Composer IS now the rule rather than some optional extra? > >> > > Yes, the community has decided that for us. Or at least, Composer is > > a *significant* player in the ecosystem of PHP development. > > require_once() might be fine for NiH applications, but for the > > collaborative world of modern PHP, it's the defacto standard. > > Much as PSR also does. > This is probably fine if one is starting a project from scratch, but > with now 15+ years worth of code that does not follow this 'modern > style' it's another barrier to moving code forward. There is nothing > wrong with the code other than newer users done approve of the style of > working :( > > EVERYTHING is a barrier to moving your code forward. You tell the mailing this on a regular basis. Perhaps you should just migrate your 15+ year old code already and be done with it? Either that or fork PHP and never upgrade again. If you're this unhappy with any/all changes to PHP, that seems a viable option. Regards Peter -- CV: careers.stackoverflow.com/peterlind LinkedIn: plind Twitter: kafe15 --047d7bb03fa0402c4b0539b46811--