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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Structured Object Notation
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

On 31/07/2016 10:00, Midori Koçak wrote:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/structured_object_notation
>
> Object Oriented Programming is a key feature to write structured programs
> in PHP. However, even though we have classes included in our program, the
> only way to create an object from a class, is to instantiate it in
> unstructured code.

Hi Midori,

I'm not really sure what problem you're trying to solve here, or what 
exactly you're proposing. The RFC would benefit greatly from a succinct 
summary of the actual feature, as well as the examples.

Are you looking for a way to set pre-requisites, like "you can only call 
bar() if you've already called foo()"? But then why are these on each 
instance, not part of the class? Or are you trying to declare the order 
of all operations in your program as some kind of directed graph? How 
would that work with multiple objects interacting, or with structures 
like conditionals and loops?

There may be an interesting concept buried here somewhere, but I would 
echo Richard's suggestion of finding something similar in another 
language, or perhaps some related computer science theory, to give more 
depth to the idea.

Regards,

-- 
Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]