Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:94663 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63626 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2016 04:12:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2016 04:12:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.41 mail-oi0-f41.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.41] ([209.85.218.41:34364] helo=mail-oi0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 07/98-05797-03044975 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:12:33 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id l65so212546411oib.1 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:12:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=FTA0Cy1RIphQ8FyUTSnSfOLD/dKBUpntBEldtmSxQ8E=; b=HPKf2UOr4YpE/GC3VjNuVqz0I/uBUvGOV/QgCiR4MfrDzamis4MZ7mMN1aGfE+Rc9R +iZAUngkxhPgJt5vuK95qH0hdZG2lvvxU5LuVHjYwW1k6b1jpi/HqAv8hYQtqsyToEWF /rVlBY9S+8Mh9xakT4Vw31OrEbreSZoB/jKziG8dlYRlwDiGU0xIAIbUkYyGMDeB5uOY 9Uk0O2yAxP25Ekh6rZTIwAU1htbYYy4+l+RYTzGKfnESrBfTNf6/HvxzsqofFmEzBUSn IO+coKNYYE5GMRlfElyoP+Cjdu6dygrVFn+beQKFcdLfHRcKMw4xU0r+8LvLj50qoSEy B2lA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=FTA0Cy1RIphQ8FyUTSnSfOLD/dKBUpntBEldtmSxQ8E=; b=dHVMYZYfq6A2mkU70+822ZOySo5bZPLOUGnYTNMy8NBVTFQKJYyvL3hj7B50Wi6AKF bvAAHA7PE6vYVC3EJJmkeNoD1E1YDTbvfMO4qVSjEVYgCzKnIJI6+VVzeBHe12OSafW2 7mVJpyhBXmIZnP+jV/a5u84M73IOc6QsZaP4yL25IDt+baX6+gzfTp+CgPeuS9LzX+oV PVjMxuxe6tI7Ef9TUCI+SEgf6uBcxBJipniB8zEiWFGRbQm0Fhktm0KmjzH2XfNhazhV XJN0VeHpgKK5l4HpLPuc+QuJBYRtXYXfYcxOlw4EmQlyQ9iMxOQ2JkV0sXYA379UPi5m iZCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvyBO4OWANnxmASd/pB9sU2LJ3v7m4KCXFIq9o05NMctQa8XMMxBXvUKrZsM/C6Ld65kVyCBqaFb9/5gw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.223.132 with SMTP id w126mr6431343oig.20.1469333549991; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.190.3 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.190.3 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:12:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <86246bad-5290-8ad7-be48-1d981d720182@gmail.com> <4b53c180-40bf-7b11-6d6f-2d68eee7cf54@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 11:12:29 +0700 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: Davey Shafik , PHP internals , Derick Rethans , Stanislav Malyshev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d40be4dccda053859e037 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] Session ID without hashing From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --001a113d40be4dccda053859e037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Yasuo, On Jul 24, 2016 10:51 AM, "Yasuo Ohgaki" wrote: > > Hi all, > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 6:13 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >> Changing the RFC during voting requires a _restart_ not an extension. > >> The vote must be re-run. I will not put this in 7.1 without a new vote. > > > > OK, looks like I was underestimating the magnitude of the messiness that > > this change (or lack of it) brought to a vote. Let's re-run the vote > > then, I think that would be the best solution given the confusion that > > apparently happened. > > I'll open reopen the vote a week. > Is this too long? > No it is not. Sadly I did not follow up on that when I said the vote should start again. The idea of a minimum voting period is not an option but a must. We introduced it in the relase process rfc, as well as the minimum discussion time, to be sure everyone has a chance to voice out and vote. We have been a bit too tolerant lately (like "as this is a small change I only setup one week discussion"). This must not happen. It is not about the content of a rfc but the time available for contributors to act. And all contributors do not follow the RFCs daily. Cheers Pierre --001a113d40be4dccda053859e037--