Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:94655 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32624 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2016 19:50:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2016 19:50:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.42 mail-oi0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.42] ([209.85.218.42:33339] helo=mail-oi0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D2/64-05797-A7AC3975 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:50:19 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j185so205521187oih.0 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 12:50:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mSbFds7WVDE5B/D/+cEVqtvSjchXIoV1boQrFcJfa4Y=; b=pOPZtzKqZvu7W4k2hWxbTToNUbN2IIZ1EdWZ3hwDNsJtFl1cNHVZeqsPU4fCCvoJbC 2JeAc/hfzmFuWv3/bKw2yrcp0piy442c9UfoZANb9WUS9VEItc+4fFMVonO9sLg85Gmv s795uyW3alroQ8IYM6apzaa5Eu8Hw9PRyo0aw4p8vK/Qc7EPqhvhhlRJBCBR/ZGFOLyQ AKQUqhAbN8jEnW/Wb+2q3W3ETX/0MHjBxkvkqlQGcx3L4oHtyYFaBlN2wybSU6gfeoUV TvNm0fWq+5CNdx55UaLrT26lQyfNdvkjFAkIWtBc/n91QjMOHC/NJTU75kOfOx3QY82/ Ci9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mSbFds7WVDE5B/D/+cEVqtvSjchXIoV1boQrFcJfa4Y=; b=IUo9bleGFkv3i1Z1Zu5Lh1z/2Ahs0T4/Iwo6j/nv2/IGbQl6BWzzx5dCPmilb9BDR1 FK7KvGfpASPNoWHTy1Vw2kLMjCZgRzaB/TVZxKH0ezBIpM0jODSsrUayDQrFkScHEo0G fVykhPWc2sCOyHOKKNTqHKZ1WltOJ4nDbTGl+NExJx4jz8PQ4jWPmLlZKIP5KRW/KfGs 4qxzZ7vjDDRcZtOXc0XU8e2rM9rUBE+0Mf4WS83UUW0JiZRvbYMAk1U1KXLdBWk4/swE YfpXjSWE0WKY4DBMPwVsi6kOtnGCNPKfgXT0mMVjuzYh6FhVO7k69RKYmMAL/3WE+Opo MSOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoous5oWLhBnl1/ZV/eXowwZVr4Eeo9+UPhy7+9vxSYNmD0IiQwe6L5c0JxHh2DN62Uw== X-Received: by 10.202.84.208 with SMTP id i199mr5835386oib.200.1469303415939; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 12:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brians-iphone.att.net (108-201-189-144.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.201.189.144]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o36sm7897002oik.21.2016.07.23.12.50.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Jul 2016 12:50:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Yasuo Ohgaki , Derick Rethans References: <86246bad-5290-8ad7-be48-1d981d720182@gmail.com> Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Message-ID: <4b53c180-40bf-7b11-6d6f-2d68eee7cf54@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 12:50:14 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86246bad-5290-8ad7-be48-1d981d720182@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] Session ID without hashing From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > We already had a vote, at it was completed. Having another vote on the > same subject, slightly modified, is highly irregular and contrary to > voting RFC, which mandates 6 month period or *substantial* changes (with > assumed new discussion period I imagine, since past discussion can't > really count for substantially changed proposal) to schedule a new vote > on a rejected proposal. > > This also gives pretty bad example - on failed vote, tweak a little > issue and issue immediate revote, repeat until one of the votes > succeeds. I understand that this is not at all your intent here, but > it's the pattern that we do not want to enable. > > I voted yes for it, and it is a pity that it failed, as it seems, > because of a miscommunication (maybe not, I don't know), but going > against our own agreed process I think is not a good outcome either. Oops, I thought I was talking about another RFC vote that failed. Sorry for the confusion. This one seems to have succeeded. This is weirder case then... I'd say just implement the uncontroversial part then and submit the controversial part as a new RFC? -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com