Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:94562 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96121 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2016 19:44:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jul 2016 19:44:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.181 mail-pf0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.181] ([209.85.192.181:33046] helo=mail-pf0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4A/76-52781-9913D875 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:44:26 -0400 Received: by mail-pf0-f181.google.com with SMTP id y134so42719736pfg.0 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:44:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+IoFVf5/ug53Eniyu89w9kdaBAIQZXDK9My9NruMMss=; b=UT7adUwPk9AmyA87/8s0gJCvlYK9Nm1TFIGssi5dyoVMxrxDPQ8MJRe9NAbLIsQJ+U QR9x97fRhypR4TUPrTCfvTiiTXWhHMoL7SR7SGNSz0sot2VScp7Dgta0IkGCA5XLKRIG CeZogHFy8lLuxdu5Qtlde4hhOTAlreAocpYLFw0aMbPOLZBxu7xcY6x+7v9z/yjL8SeM NNqACbBX/p3ZdXWLUpDBB/KdmIji/CnsdGw+2DCwMPlgRwnjEm+gfq7TCa0zx2FoxBLb Hyjueph/Bl6z248IFqCUrGegRTHKIz/nG2AVNk+i/+q0u/JgK4BvBXIs8BQMGj+VPms2 OIVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+IoFVf5/ug53Eniyu89w9kdaBAIQZXDK9My9NruMMss=; b=Ng6UGNGmsepTDet8fIm1MFRM6YCPjfV+z+p4xUB/rFAk3ddy88CXECzawEtYm7jeTG 944mnazMQm98ZYfRSoVpEsHGZ098RAHywZuEC3crplopWerDuq97okCSVUJsvmYZwmum 2TmXtAKmFIlItN4Ve7AXLQAUj9Xgl5bBc5GM0vv2cpmH//JMCXSKtBTIEgfw/QZoP8vB 2GxvGBupgbWseqxDE8/mlxe4LY/5Y+4FYPHw5GIIAOmR9Jqb+Wh3EySVUeRz7sP4aSpM A6b8ZksUz5oWtu5zDJHnE3d80eJoZY/WRSn0uP0kr/TVEeKOUahGI2Ctxcriv7FnLpPg hCSA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJexvykvd/2oOGTW/GACTlr5eDVN8zBUfSHRy05MMulmqoy2o0FTHaIwQFWb4bQsA== X-Received: by 10.98.58.73 with SMTP id h70mr48294516pfa.125.1468871063219; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local (76-220-46-95.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [76.220.46.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a85sm6874704pfj.42.2016.07.18.12.44.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:44:22 -0700 (PDT) To: Derick Rethans References: <5bad172a-4570-78f8-814e-987299241a2b@gmail.com> Cc: PHP Internals Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:44:20 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] orphaned extensions in 7.1? From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Don't presume that "no updates" does not mean "not in use", or "not > maintained" though. True. I am not concerned about having many updates though but rather having somebody who would make updates if needed. For those two, we officially don't have anybody. I suspect there is a number of extensions which unofficially are in the same positions, due to nobody listed as maintainers, or people listed as maintainers having moved on since and not really interested in being maintainers, or just us having no idea about whether somebody is maintaining or not. We have 20 extensions listed as "Unknown" and among those listed as maintained, also some that nobody officially listed as maintainer has touched the bugs filed for the extension for many years. This is not to imply somebody's fault or make a judgement on the quality of code or importance of the extensions. It is a natural process that maintainers change. But I think we should realistically evaluate what is really maintained and what is not, identify where we have gaps and either solicit help to close these gaps or admit that we don't have the resource to maintain it right now. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com