Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:94192 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2016 09:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jun 2016 09:59:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.230 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.230 mail4-3.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.230] ([217.147.176.230:36932] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BA/8B-43024-1716A675 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2016 05:59:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 21450 invoked by uid 89); 22 Jun 2016 09:59:01 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 21444, pid: 21447, t: 0.0673s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.7?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 22 Jun 2016 09:59:01 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: <576A6165.8090904@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:59:01 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Vote] Typed Properties From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 22/06/16 10:37, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > Without it, PHP will newer be aqualed such as Java, C# even Hack language - > there still will continue to be a big gap, due to the lack of type hinting. > Sure you could say start to code in Hack it has type safier system, it has > generics, annotations and other features which from time to time are in PHP > RFC's but most of time they are declined and Hack lacks of great IDE > support like PHPStorm which I use and love because of refactor, code > styling, run&debug etc. If all these other languages are so much better why is the usage of PHP *SO* much greater than any of them with no sign of any of them gaining traction? Simply because for the vast number of users the simplicity of PHP works ... they are not degree level software engineers. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk