Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:94000 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18718 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2016 11:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Jun 2016 11:01:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.22 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.22] ([212.227.17.22:52871] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4F/FD-27860-A9531675 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:01:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.102] ([217.82.228.97]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MOwY7-1bItKj0vsV-006NlJ; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:01:42 +0200 To: internals@lists.php.net, Leigh References: <1ee34970-76f4-e6c6-df1e-a827e3fc592d@fleshgrinder.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:01:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1ee34970-76f4-e6c6-df1e-a827e3fc592d@fleshgrinder.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:OmdttDXD9otjkuVbMbcfy1YG34KtbM9P4xAs3jDkG8xh48bDmFV S70fwwerYhATiDcjHjXmA6meeoi7eKZ6IqXQJHK6ReLCIoHGOrJU1PGuk7HZH/LeO2/1iiz KFo5KABP5MITiHaN8Md4XAvY8+AWUNqBNi/3unptvwaucah5m+DCXvPx+/Ev+EYUhi6e3qb iI4a2sXu+rJ+s5/q34law== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:AVDNGk+CBQo=:02ZF0G3gCzX7//V6wGx/fA o/3IPt3njVXT+6uqMthC/WSo3udJA7rUcrpn9d3gbWjPGF/jCcFG3RxxqJ4dyklpeHxmeMajX SPM05vKkYYCSBYFj6O04qn6p1GKYikpiUH0rRly5RGRaqjzD+adf+dUXeP5BIv67l3JTeQAWG 5fbxKxAdqzBwdohsc+FLXkY3LohbH8QD0sx7dZNFFOq0oTsJ4Jl8SX2f2xaLWObB3+EDqQ9Xj 75tiZqbeBYi7Dh8iK5NJ/rZXMibiv00r6osDIckhAfq212/Et+FRCR8CsCVcXIf4JxeVhax5/ 8KhAFqxH5pDNO2Wil/OhoDFpEGtm4X2m1B3oBUYV6L/TWnivhV+z+G384Z0Fst8ZvMtZFDBqZ rlcHqqHVytu0EOzsvQ41ovWK7Pffesnt4c5CuEsH1OKfG1XovWpmMCk/OetO/A4rpD04KrvQg TueCEf6gWApJSmEomGHpaSM+pKFTs9x4vyxvC7ZY/3YSYxwvm+hhEi17nZ5ij0ahLaxk7zCV6 tWLsRQT/QXt5dIUYjnmFcnikObSrmgUw6uH0ZVImLksnr5tdqo5Gzoke4PSdJFrRw1IpBu6Jq FzeRzKrrIG5sO20U70Fs91BsRrXp/mtza3AkGlt+RkUX3ZrJDYoDXJAU6oCqM3INdueKYJ6Kz 6pvpuvLSdC41SVBR7PKSunFpiA5TEn7Nz3buAVqBmh9yBKN/WQ+5BMhVWgWjWvvwvp7qlSP49 8CpfvJ/He/QtywIyGaZ30N/bp/GddKND7w6g0Y4+zfU6kvl0CjqGj9pGskVTGG98n9c35NmpO M6z1/nA Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] RNG fixes From: cmbecker69@gmx.de (Christoph Becker) On 14.06.2016 at 21:12, Fleshgrinder wrote: > On 6/14/2016 8:56 PM, Christoph Becker wrote: > >> Yes, I'm aware of that, and that change isn't an issue for me (except >> maybe that it might happen in a minor version). I was responding to >> Richard (Fleshgrinder) who suggested to remove rand() and mt_rand() >> alltogether, because there is random_int(). > > Call me ignorant but is this required in typical web applications? > Couldn't we move this functionality to PECL? I mean, it is required in > games but other than that. I don't know, but I can image that it is (test suites come to mind). Of course, it might be an option to move the functionality to PECL, but on the other hand, what would we gain? For users, however, that might be a major pain; consider software which runs on shared hosting. -- Christoph M. Becker