Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:93931 Return-Path: <cmbecker69@gmx.de> Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95791 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2016 11:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jun 2016 11:36:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.22 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.22] ([212.227.17.22:61611] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C2/0A-12403-9DA9E575 for <internals@lists.php.net>; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 07:36:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.102] ([217.82.228.97]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LkBPy-1biiip3YTK-00c79u; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:36:49 +0200 To: internals@lists.php.net, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> References: <BY2PR0201MB1784853FB024646DE2CE2E84BF500@BY2PR0201MB1784.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> <33b39115-fd63-5973-4a90-7c6d526af3c4@fleshgrinder.com> Message-ID: <49f6438e-7eb2-850b-1b14-e86250eca768@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:37:01 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33b39115-fd63-5973-4a90-7c6d526af3c4@fleshgrinder.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:j07NUUnTRFK3ncYu9+9/5Bdp+bY+KhXGleGzf7iBZcb+dTdh0YK qpns+1WCOo4OCj1mFASBfd/7mo23ZHB+7IiP1mYlQHPSeXlX3df2iDmtpopkphjwFuJvMb8 tPUf7Qd3o/SPwiDPXV2jO+E/4dY3WJL9CYjp9YUCo0xLroYXB99xsQ2tapLBct5mUhUyY+v 2bUQayoipSODCzxltBiCg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:bqbhcdrTGiw=:Ts8ypyTizjKRPl9oDGOm6t 2RDHKA9wPnGuBnkqb3FyfxkXS0arr6K9VYsgYbYDOl9IwR4N199WyP79O/erD9Vdw5Bs2KBTv 6v0P7znnDudH25L7glDE5eC193dalsZ0ULJ1TtLALmbORVRwT8hlws0+C/+aOcqY5C2r8eXcX 5pKmDmdKuYEeiTHhpHJG5Q97j/nmEvSK17ztzjM622uEziYpDCa8uPLdsu5y7N77klu9R70ye Ghgh3WUi9h49G4ICwMj0bCjrajy+pj1FSpBrJ73yoYOf6eX5Z/CREwQ9oP5pSC4oc1zKAXR4i S0Rr57dpN65MHC3IG2x2kNZo3VctAlGPlBr/+jCFVYkKAp7tM3fPCWKUY4mtxKYcNjuCxzpDx uqX91PDyyOCe9CMeWgmrLpA2EAjod21Xjg3r7XKHevWpj3hR2x2Y9HkORQv2KKl0fiv1yQOUy gGgu+SF6ayFzUEfLYfVTQ1XaqpdnWvTNW/Bbr1LOzCQkx3vqeAdQHnugBKppVbSAyNyG070Gq wTptep10FJZ8knQdClTvRzyUfJOMiDMWtLw2RMN7fEx6VYMTk16DYGy2q3O5VqCTmT5qyPC9J zC7jtL+8SEa25wlllPLi9+SKSCNhivmCUURe9Wq26L8wH/V7fTEKt0QUA7lFpsjXFtEFmYo/5 8T/4ZUlsnoIvBu0Go2/T+mo5ktYviMN80aL6gVWKgQ/ngxdla8n5GpdAgeamqAqQzolznovP+ PgbCFDxz59AEYYREajz+nKZZb/6wyhXq40HNqU2NXGyzSjxEpdrFMaebbwJNW+ygItm9PBnIl sau0iFA Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Throw Exception on Attempt of ConstantRedefinition From: cmbecker69@gmx.de (Christoph Becker) On 11.06.2016 at 17:01, Fleshgrinder wrote: > On 6/10/2016 10:06 PM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: >> >> Please review: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/constant_redefinition > > This would be a breaking change in a minor release again. > > -1 > > However +1 for PHP 8. I'm also somewhat concerned with regard to turning a notice into an exception in a minor version. I would prefer to have an alternative voting option to deprecate constant redefinition in 7.1 and to finally disallow it in 8.0. It might be helpful to make a rough plan when PHP 8.0 will be released. If that will be far in the future (say 5 years or even more), such a change might be okay for a minor version (presumably nobody wants to wait such a long time for this and similar improvements), but if PHP 8.0 will be released much earlier, it might be tolerable to wait and to not break semantic versioning. -- Christoph M. Becker