Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:93828 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35222 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2016 22:41:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2016 22:41:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.173 mail-yw0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.173] ([209.85.161.173:33101] helo=mail-yw0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8B/54-09778-2BAA4575 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 18:41:55 -0400 Received: by mail-yw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id h19so125929509ywc.0 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:41:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+4M68N6M74TwKxqSbdXZ0CdIHmf09Iw1I2zSspVDfQw=; b=g+ECUNON4dpn6FmBgy82n7qOo0HV51nnfa2/DlY74q9MdEZO49PleM0a7Vs3sq3ixx Qi1HZ0prrbHD4WgWhg2a+/7jQVXsrgD28jKClv3hO2jI2+ZKKgkZodvvDlLYvL7Sf4Gt uIQWDl1gx+95VzE33NYTFTQuDEmu4KuB0I0mrNzmgAvUIX0o/UQiAV+AhjsOXcw6klJ+ RwgnuaGJ+ewPopUZ/t1gKbpHPpvvrfPoL2Ttb6HrHq9cqZs9JlFTwYidNPV5+GhAMXmg rPGt+qAZcQYzgPaHwH6dOrjZw0e4jthbzR0ungWYWj2wVabOPrEe7vMlJ+FxNFjxImVp GmBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+4M68N6M74TwKxqSbdXZ0CdIHmf09Iw1I2zSspVDfQw=; b=ju2zRop4OAf9I1lUeRumjMbXC6iIoZFjbQ5IfdnWFDNM0ZNQG8HLSMrwda5QLvMdgQ wDWL45e7JwsqdqoacsWPMewC4TfFH3w6d4aVEUNmTljtozkEy1XeexR/pvP8qjeQO1d9 TergQRcqbNYGIZutt/sqmxROZoG68qOxsyxkytiirhAgE/lyUNEAv2aW/vEtz959+enM aSnvWXiq/nyUzW4BiqBmw5c8Yg60STuxW8QQWLuVi4OYoXpqwIahGPNfTulqHrFk9NYM JNj7x1j00leQTWtmH3Fg4956cUeQyv/ZMmgi6fkG6SHYUft1Momnvjd/wnrhdH7+KAcf C8hQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLRgaf6O1D2YV8rUQnapAVfTlYjeCdOCTOpMWoYtxJNlEVDwgdxkrOmXrfgkqp9Ag== X-Received: by 10.13.225.196 with SMTP id k187mr9008073ywe.256.1465166512608; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stas-air.attlocal.net (76-220-46-95.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [76.220.46.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t64sm10071603ywf.14.2016.06.05.15.41.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:41:52 -0700 (PDT) To: Rasmus Schultz References: <94009625-535b-d937-21b6-b454f942a82d@gmail.com> Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <750008c2-dcfe-6fea-70fc-971c606021bd@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:41:48 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC DISCUSSION] typeof From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > You can choose your point of view - I choose the point of view where we > replace a broken function with a function that does what developers > would actually *expect*. Show me developer that expects core engine functions to go away and be replaced with functions with almost the same, but slightly different output - and I show you a developer that has way too much free time on their hands. Most developers don't have time for such things. Yes, if we designed this function from scratch, knowing all we know now, we'd take different decisions. But we don't have this luxury, we are where we are now, and it's not from scratch. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com