Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:93611 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96325 invoked from network); 27 May 2016 14:38:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 May 2016 14:38:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.214 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.214 mail4-2.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.214] ([217.147.176.214:43770] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 22/99-37127-8FB58475 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 10:38:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 25094 invoked by uid 89); 27 May 2016 14:38:45 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 25085, pid: 25091, t: 0.0656s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.7?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 27 May 2016 14:38:45 -0000 To: PHP internals References: <20160525215208.034FC1A801B3@dd1730.kasserver.com> <5fd54aa0-4fdf-c1e7-eae8-765aa89c8498@fleshgrinder.com> <08963b03-8394-6d62-4e5b-393f3fcb5647@fleshgrinder.com> <9e9db70d-d72d-d93e-0c81-18c2aa228618@gmail.com> <409002d8-b5e3-5990-7358-246adc7e3cab@fleshgrinder.com> <57474A08.80807@lsces.co.uk> <6f7403b6-bf22-a12b-dfb2-43fe82983e7d@fleshgrinder.com> <57474F9C.6080104@lsces.co.uk> <1733cfce-001b-1079-e929-88f7dde0f2dd@gmail.com> <57475F27.3090306@lsces.co.uk> <34edcbd1-2d6a-cd52-7bbb-c393ab62d32d@gmail.com> <574772BA.3030305@lsces.co.uk> <5748164C.7020803@lsces.co.uk> <5156d2d3-6c7b-b5d0-fdfd-9064d8fb1d58@fleshgrinder.com> <57483EC9.3000501@lsces.co.uk> Message-ID: <57485BF5.6090509@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 15:38:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Vote] Typed Properties From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 27/05/16 15:12, Ryan Pallas wrote: > Now you can blindly initialize it, and call format on it, whether or not > the date is provided. This is all controllable in userland, there is no > reason to make the language do it for you, as its purely a design decision. Which has been the main argument all along. And if I'm doing it all in userland anyway I do it in the database read/write rather than duplicating all of that in secondary copies ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk