Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:93358 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19758 invoked from network); 16 May 2016 14:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 May 2016 14:04:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=bishop.bettini@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=bishop.bettini@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: bishop.bettini@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.52 mail-oi0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.52] ([209.85.218.52:36100] helo=mail-oi0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 25/17-65275-583D9375 for ; Mon, 16 May 2016 10:04:53 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x201so269179601oif.3 for ; Mon, 16 May 2016 07:04:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rOdMjgYBUc+7Q3wSpPVTGot1lkxC8j1LO6JK9+XzpEc=; b=VGT+fLom9V+brJIhQSg+fgXWvSY5RISgSSo66yUoVkfhBKaZm1uROQv/ZOR+zdRsFG jdgHeHpuS9BmFoIcqIcRcExnOiOO17z/HVKngr/dS7uQzSxyXMHN4CMbBNqmLd5snuMp NzxmWegEmgxKhtCNgZ+7sxZJ19PzCydqp2dgOg2KBX+jRJ/3r8sukAr4B7FxhQjdl26V 2zZIEXM4wd/u2uRbL7cnUqEQ15YaboEu7lZNg3h6GEuqz2xHgkZvVbgfqj2ax+gQOpIj ut/K2suRweU3yhhmRfOGt7w+Pou1rsLjGOu+yVK1CqHprUEzohax+tGAmMWkOMtkn4zL yuRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rOdMjgYBUc+7Q3wSpPVTGot1lkxC8j1LO6JK9+XzpEc=; b=h7B6W3aq/2IJfUphLrr8WDtyfQHDTbmPdZ8nw4v3rwGiasMwMkGTwcAzFuXq06RyO3 u9CVU4b/I7oJspCvv6Wqdlx2neZTRVIvfeDHOg7ZgpIHHP5IznhDqiSbU3QP+o8wA5gO AhF/KdOkbj5ro7Y005Ss3pq/Jxxzg4J7uq50YmD9kzCP3XWR6zr19hAkYPhxSjxNBk5k B0QWrkbvDA+LxNujILmSm9NBrhB+1ivLzzcMeZUIv6LZazsb+bFP1I7proxvQ/SlU8ZU 3tEsFGEhVIWE/xYYYMIlfwdOh+bsmmWuHLnSX6dKV6323bptSZhcGJcSQMk77bxIAbnP zZNg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FU5TTzxaF7bgQaJpT+5zJxt03bQ5CVKptsnoV17n2yv4qsLDL6VQfK1u+wvJgsI4y8b5G5D1k71diJWJg== X-Received: by 10.157.5.209 with SMTP id 75mr2669836otd.60.1463407490157; Mon, 16 May 2016 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: bishop@php.net Sender: bishop.bettini@gmail.com Received: by 10.157.36.137 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2016 07:04:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:04:20 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bIK7_kSUZtnFeUs0x4vkNZAaiRc Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136f8669cee490532f61b64 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Forbid dynamic calls to scope introspection functions From: bishop@php.net (Bishop Bettini) --001a1136f8669cee490532f61b64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The RFC > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/forbid_dynamic_scope_introspection > > is now in voting. The vote closes on 2016-05-24 with a required majority of > 2/3. I voted no. While I agree these appear to be exotic use cases, my quibble boils down to the assumption these minimally exist in the wild. Several templating systems rely on extract, and func_get_args drives several framework collection classes. I can see userland invoking these inside of array_map (etc) and dynamically. I'd be a Yes if we start with a warning in 7.1 and then error in the next major. --001a1136f8669cee490532f61b64--