Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:93322 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19626 invoked from network); 13 May 2016 21:32:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 May 2016 21:32:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.49 mail-lf0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.49] ([209.85.215.49:34270] helo=mail-lf0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D2/00-18975-7D746375 for ; Fri, 13 May 2016 17:32:08 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-f49.google.com with SMTP id m64so94172717lfd.1 for ; Fri, 13 May 2016 14:32:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=7lBXixch0MR08P6E7ACLA74CaMif3z6R5WFA2tSUEpg=; b=sstj3EHTONdy/iq86o7C2qGuAbrRRXJAHIRdHl8V/wORK6DdD+jnTmGG+Wr/w0BqOs JwUG1+QmS7OwzJ4/WwSJWkI4tFPHKl/+xiPSPMnQm1v7bV/vNgrf8rGqeByJES+TzUXT 2MM7/onPIZO0g0x0b5ZwbYvHpJe/PibYILfSpkV+eVeb7arf2sr94hU3qoO7glixEeX+ jWETJidV3TfRhFWFN4OU8uK4a+tNyGXlGWq4e5ADRHeAiwb0784XKrmrnQC0F4pESAxl jez8Iq90xDk3ELVacPM1optTCtSYoS9shtstV8eoe5Ygk455MFUyPM+Uy3sQ8i2Bv1tN p1kA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=7lBXixch0MR08P6E7ACLA74CaMif3z6R5WFA2tSUEpg=; b=WSQV5CBIYHVwnjgoF9u91Gt5Ch/BKotnMyxFeBXP/Fxlx0nC+OkeC/AjT4K44U2sdI MjDCU7kB6DlZ2iVao1NwRpqXcrTu/dFmWjWoq5a3c4Oa6jonDmN0oBFSEjl5eqm79O3p oArY2fTWaKc5qkHfXKzfhDvU5kuBQMsjdD/Bwj5YABtQ+8Yhi/eanyWoTFpCwnM3VoGw JJ6W2LLcAMf+/63hH1gijX6fHwwXrCM+Zd45Pb9+QbJtlq+8rL42vSO5paouDPujiU+3 xaCQPSVC0KF5P52hl986D+9vSVY2WLGyb0xGehdW2lw+FbqqaGTkOEJuNaNfa3cVKJiU ZL0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXwykeJBKpJtUEjAZOHAXt4Ooo9I0a2aJp5pnmVqU+ASS4nrXma7y6raUCra6i1346/W808Z9Cau1rXFg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.208.76 with SMTP id h73mr7734167lfg.74.1463175124418; Fri, 13 May 2016 14:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.112.217.104 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2016 14:32:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [107.198.91.68] In-Reply-To: References: <1d8d5c0c-0403-7e9e-5b93-56de43648c99@php.net> <7119991e-415f-20e3-22e8-5f6a68df0e34@gmail.com> <8c7872c3-c7c0-e2df-c61f-912ca6eb3527@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:32:04 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JZBwAiMNPEcswVxHbp_541nq55c Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , =?UTF-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?= , Rowan Collins , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Third-party editing of RFCs From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Still, I regard editing someone else's work as poor form. > > Introducing a way to do that, and relying on social pressure to keep > everyone in check is not a good long term plan ... sounds great, until > someone actually does make an edit that the original author vehemently > disagrees with. > This is why I defined the TPE RFC to scope that permission SOLELY to the arguments section. I agree that the rest of the document should be considered "owned" by the original author. Would taking a page out of Wikipedia by having the notion of "Talk" pages make more sense, perhaps? > Can't we just require the section to be included by the original > author(s) ? > We can, and I'd settle for that as a first step, but as the RFC states, it doesn't do justice to the "Against" arguments to rely on someone who is, by definition, in favor of the proposal to summarize all arguments convincingly. -Sara