Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:93314 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92570 invoked from network); 13 May 2016 14:22:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 May 2016 14:22:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=me@daveyshafik.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=me@daveyshafik.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain daveyshafik.com from 209.85.217.170 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: me@daveyshafik.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.170 mail-lb0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.170] ([209.85.217.170:35910] helo=mail-lb0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EB/93-01216-713E5375 for ; Fri, 13 May 2016 10:22:16 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id h1so25986259lbj.3 for ; Fri, 13 May 2016 07:22:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=daveyshafik-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=6epdUcv6DQOCXhVKZOXiVTiTT/9VlFGQsuNVgomZiTE=; b=kNAuU9nyxYjeqxJ+LmNPDeU+SfhnLBV3CExnd28sbG9y/d2kktbIPUGmTbxXsuMuAO F7glQNdOhwKJLFwhHGjK2+LJiLD7WB1y/Bi2DHZlyGSgwZ5QYPpBqJ3ZotzldJg5f2vz kX7SLGrU0f092rtJiX+0G6F/V1walcwQEVMXLniyZRcCDcDXk//mHnu9/lRjN7F3mMrJ OXbOsHIkp9ctC5jHoZyigAxtDeQKLi5SGIsO3WoqwHPP1Bs3P1zsmsc0Tvij4EUByjBi n2eCrV5ZSzgGeIgUZu4iEjfNvMP+uezPvWj5OXVHVkG/EWAl9iYyrG+hksitSvwXXIDL ahWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=6epdUcv6DQOCXhVKZOXiVTiTT/9VlFGQsuNVgomZiTE=; b=Ta64CVjhgUkZ6cLwu+QJ04+1Z9V/iTI8MiozET1Gh710GIVmnoy3KcRnT3qpI10f/P Ip51h6wlD8nxhhETnYmZOwbyVy7b3dBbfiNc3H6xV70rxFYECN1bXB738eysUJn2B154 EozJIsKg5aYvqAUZcudRZGPKThO6VJ2r/pnKCvs3aZMdTx3Cs71ZKZRtZxqGf4Jrx9Qs bcNdBUJQOzZhCKQBsN9LwApERTZnJV0fOgcBXftboqFXRQULh+zwO8Kc+T7pF/+O/jJg zVCSS0Km29Pcw9XEglQC2MBRj+BOaHa9r0S/o1ejqm0+aSL/PrI1A9snuFBPKSyicBGO 394w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUGF+4tqosVEQXnXqIpxKG0TMwXOUZ93AudRUBzOVLmdU4Xe0R/Wz22nrUWdKMMswpEX0Enzg2U91zW+7px MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.150.66 with SMTP id ug2mr6738357lbb.127.1463149332794; Fri, 13 May 2016 07:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: me@daveyshafik.com Received: by 10.25.28.10 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2016 07:22:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7119991e-415f-20e3-22e8-5f6a68df0e34@gmail.com> References: <1d8d5c0c-0403-7e9e-5b93-56de43648c99@php.net> <7119991e-415f-20e3-22e8-5f6a68df0e34@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:22:12 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1u5PT1ZZXXOU8hBD_NOEKFCGL0k Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b342d503c2d160532ba003a Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Third-party editing of RFCs From: davey@php.net (Davey Shafik) --047d7b342d503c2d160532ba003a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On 13/05/2016 11:07, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre wrote: > >> Le 12/05/2016 =C3=A0 19:33, Sara Golemon a =C3=A9crit : >> >>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rfc.third-party-editing >>> >>> Let's make RFCs more useful before AND after voting! >>> >>> -Sara >>> >>> >> As RFC author, what should I do with irrelevant arguments against my RFC >> ? Should I add a reply ? More generally, I don't like the idea that >> anybody else can add anything to my RFC. >> > > > In my opinion, the notion of "owning" an RFC is not always helpful - we'r= e > here to work together to come up with the best solution, not to compete f= or > kudos or defend a fixed position. That said, I recognise that the main bo= dy > of the RFC benefits from having an identified "lead editor", so it stays > consistent. > > If this section is intended as a collaborative summary of the discussion, > then I would say you would have no more right or responsibility than anyo= ne > else to police it on "your" RFC (and no less, either). > > If somebody adds something that is genuinely irrelevant (e.g. based on a > simple misunderstanding of the RFC) then somebody else (*anyobdy* else) > could remove it. However, if it's just that you don't think a particular > argument is subjectively valid, then the fact that someone holds a contra= ry > opinion is a useful piece of information to the reader, and should stay. > > Think of it like a comment section, "the opinions below are not > necessarily those of the RFC's sponsors". Perhaps just split it out into a separate document that is concurrent to the RFC=E2=80=A6 - Davey --047d7b342d503c2d160532ba003a--