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Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 07:09:58 +0100
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To: Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] PHP Attributes
From: pthreads@pthreads.org (Joe Watkins)

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Morning,

    Because you have confused the vote by adding additional options very
late in the discussion, and because the majority are in favour of something
I think is harmful; I've had to vote no, on a feature that I want :s

Cheers
Joe

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Joe Watkins <pthreads@pthreads.org> wrote:

> Morning Dmitry,
>
> > On the other hand simple string may be parsed into AST with just one
> additional call to ast\compile_string().
>
> You're not really suggesting that I write my tools in user land, are you =
?
> It's me, Joe :)
>
> I *only* want attributes as they were originally proposed, and I can't
> vote to reflect that.
>
> As discussed in private, what I want is attributes, as originally
> proposed, and a hookable compiler; Anything else is not good enough.
>
> Cheers
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:26 AM, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> The sense in native support for AST is questionable.
>>
>>
>> On one hand this allows syntax verification.
>>
>>
>> On the other hand simple string may be parsed into AST with just one
>> additional call to ast\compile_string().
>>
>>
>> Thanks. Dmitry.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Joe Watkins <pthreads@pthreads.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:46:09 AM
>> *To:* Bj=C3=B6rn Larsson
>> *Cc:* Dmitry Stogov; PHP internals
>> *Subject:* Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] PHP Attributes
>>
>> Morning Dmitry,
>>
>>     I'm not really happy with the voting options here.
>>
>>     I would not vote in favour of a patch that does not include support
>> for AST, that's a completely different feature.
>>
>>     As it is, I have to vote yes in favour of AST, but it may be counted
>> as a vote in favour of attributes without AST ...
>>
>>     This doesn't seem right ... I don't want attributes without AST, and
>> there is no voting option to reflect that.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Joe
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Bj=C3=B6rn Larsson <
>> bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Den 2016-05-11 kl. 00:00, skrev Dmitry Stogov:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/11/2016 12:29 AM, Bj=C3=B6rn Larsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Den 2016-05-10 kl. 20:29, skrev Dmitry Stogov:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi internals,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've started voting on "PHP Attributes" RFC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion, "PHP Attributes" might be a smart tool for PHP
>>>>>> extension, but it's not going to be the end of the world, if we deci=
ded to
>>>>>> live with doc-comments only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. Dmitry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the good work. Regarding naming, I googled
>>>>> "PHP attributes" vs "PHP annotations" and looking at the
>>>>> result, my view is that that Annotation is a better naming
>>>>> then Attributes. Any hope in changing it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The more I listen to arguments of adepts of existing PHP annotation
>>>> systems, the more I think, that "PHP attributes" is the right name for=
 this
>>>> proposal.
>>>> This feature is not just for PHP annotation systems.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thats a fair point, so Annotation it's not. Still, when I hear PHP
>>> attributes I associate it with class / function attributes. Maybe
>>> just a question getting used to the naming. Hm, wonder if PHP
>>> directives could have been an option?
>>>
>>> Regards //Bj=C3=B6rn
>>>
>>>
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