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Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:44:46 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: async/await - is future reserved words in PHP 7.x?
From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller)

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2016-05-04 16:40 GMT+02:00 Stephen Coakley <me@stephencoakley.com>:

> On 05/04/2016 05:59 AM, S.A.N wrote:
>
>> EventLoop interface, on development stage:
>> https://github.com/async-interop/event-loop
>>
>
> That's a userland design for event loops; async/await and coroutines don't
> necessarily depend on an event loop. They could be added to the language
> without an event loop, and simply require the user to provide the event
> loop.
>

Would be strange to have async / await in the language without an event
loop, but it's possible, yes.


> My idea was to make a transition into async as simple as possible.
>
> Also, I'm partially responsible for the event loop interface above. :P
>
> PHP wrappers for libev and libeio supported PHP 7.
>> https://pecl.php.net/package/ev
>> https://pecl.php.net/package/eio
>>
> >
>
>> libuv - certainly better because it has everything you need and a huge
>> community.
>>
>
> I agree; libuv is probably the best of the bunch, if we include an event
> loop library in future versions of PHP. It is not necessary to have a PHP
> wrapper for libuv, since if it was included in the interpreter itself we
> would be just using the C interface.
>
> Very need async/await in the PHP core (based on generators).
>> Perhaps there are plans in core developers, for implement async/await?
>>
>
> /Legend speaks of such plans, but they come and go in whispers. Like a
> shadow, or a mist from the east. The prophecy spake of such features
> targeting PHP8; lo, most believe it to be myth./


Why do we have to wait until PHP 8? Should be mostly backwards compatible
and be fine in 7.2 or so. Issue is probably more deciding on an API.


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