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Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 11:45:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Pipe Operator
From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon)

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Fleshgrinder <php@fleshgrinder.com> wrote:
> On 5/3/2016 8:12 PM, Sara Golemon wrote:
>> The difference with scalar objects is:
>> A) We need to agree on what methods these objects are going to have.
>> ((And we won't agree))
>>
>
> The nice thing here is that we could start with the things that we agree
> on and develop it from there further.
>
Which is precisely why we'll get paralyzed.

> On 5/3/2016 8:12 PM, Sara Golemon wrote:
>> We could maybe hedge our bets with a ->invoke(Callable) method that
>> pushes the value into an arbitrary closure, but that's just adding
>> complexity to... avoid adding complexity... o.O
>>
>
> That would be pure evil.
>
Agreed.  It's an attempt to force a square peg into a round hole.  But
focusing on OOP chaining will always leave this gap.

> The pipe operator is also just a work around for poorly designed
> libraries in this case and yields more poorly designed libraries.
>
Pretending that poorly designed libraries exist is na=C3=AEve.  PHP is
dominated by poorly designed software but it manages to work because
it responds with practicality.

It's practical to provide a functional version of object method chaining.

-Sara