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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 04:20:24 +0200
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To: Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Attributes -> docBloc alternatives ...
From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)

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 > This needs to be agreed in the core first

Meh, no. Let someone that actually worked for years and years on the
specific problem to solve that, please: accumulated experience across all
use-cases is the best resource you can get here, and he knows his stuff.

 > Is composer now the only supported installation tool?

For pretty much most projects, yes. In this case, you can still use PEAR
(not sure for how much more, though) or a PHAR download:
https://www.phpdoc.org/docs/latest/getting-started/installing.html


Marco Pivetta

http://twitter.com/Ocramius

http://ocramius.github.com/

On 28 April 2016 at 09:21, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:

> On 28/04/16 06:35, Marco Pivetta wrote:
> > This is what Mike van Riel was working on with PSR-5. Work has been
> > suspended atm, but I'd still go look at that first.
>
> Sorry but php-fig is not PHP and sme of the 'standards' created there
> are at odds with the preferred practices in the PHP code ... which is
> one reason I see that some of the developments have been thankfully
> suspended. The changes to phpdocumentor are also at odds with core
> practices and that is why I am putting my hand up here. This needs to be
> agreed in the core first and personally I'd prefer that this annotation
> practice was the primary one, and adding hard coded options remained
> optional not enabled by default.
>
> Is composer now the only supported installation tool? Even phpdocumentor
> installer advises using other methods because of the mess composer
> creates if you are installing more than one 'application', but the only
> supported method for using php-annotations is via composer ... creating
> it's own problems when trying to add back code that existed in the past.
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