Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:92755 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90542 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2016 20:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Apr 2016 20:15:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.51 mail-wm0-f51.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.51] ([74.125.82.51:36263] helo=mail-wm0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BB/44-02401-BFA7E175 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:15:56 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f51.google.com with SMTP id v188so112074833wme.1 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:15:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:to:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4P1tecj6YQRyBxnNoZ90iJON3IUgvs3OAVTixfM7qOc=; b=FE+pPBdYc0CM6ak656xVc2a7InnfLwJtSG683E0vyAj1FOSFWD1MCZnFYgeRTqGwM9 l+KEWYhEDtXnTyjZItHBnQlAGMv5VCMSh+E8ciPvD9vzI667LN8RJd6SPFgmemFfmEk5 avRV7QEQ1XBUdGzPpNAq1Tta2O81TJ4bkmEECK+s/DQdRaysOgLdsAKijTdZB0+fCBwc Y1dlMY7B2VJ3XThhSQPvcgbmxP9hbe4YiVs2dZWcHs+A1ZpWRdcGEm4oOM4WqUjE9DnH vlWUaQ4tmO3XEzzU1MT50SWQ/K+SlvOjWeoj6pLk+116//ZH+lRzzFtRFLxpLusrV5Bf a8hQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:from:to:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4P1tecj6YQRyBxnNoZ90iJON3IUgvs3OAVTixfM7qOc=; b=h2pI7DKRbKw24jUNfWEX8xNmHNIWWDuukPQS16URmKajo0yCRt21PS+9DmeCzW0gnW +o7TUunOU5YVeK4n0rRCUADnoSAQ5Icd2R+PjS4XmB7HH4LpPJgKoBmb8RtQ0wfEYFOs 6Ytd0oj4Eh+ISO74EBes2rCybjDtD15Ex/8c2JE/hzT5kgCM5MMfFzUDuFkEOnjXwv1o i4TgCYg4XIx/lCeugTkP7r5u7W9ocKnGP32R7+1Wgm8dQo+1FAQVw6ovkl8tLuAgaQRJ Jg8sLWR9KBkVa4M+o7j+2IEpsjybRIVHpZsEcJs1h+Y1BYrqJR1eGK4UjRG3qtHXOc8D rYkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVUHZDgVbclnfl5LuALCduwvZTDYZwpTWED9m4aV47EAeWaoCyLLnQzqxhW/BArgw== X-Received: by 10.28.147.8 with SMTP id v8mr13506892wmd.92.1461615352598; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.189] ([2.27.88.132]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e16sm11359395wmc.3.2016.04.25.13.15.51 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:15:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <571E2B75.6000909@gmail.com> <571E5A62.9030502@gmail.com> To: internals Message-ID: <1a08ca47-3946-b496-e980-b2c072e28036@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:15:51 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Opcache::get($key), set($key, $value) to shared memory, is planned in PHP 7.1? From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 25/04/2016 19:07, S.A.N wrote: > I am not against third-party libraries, I want to have this > functionality out of the box, it seems to me correct to make these > functions in OPCache, instead of adding Apcu to PHP core, IMHO... Literally the only difference between including APCu in core and adding this to OpCache is the name of the resulting functions. The result either way is that you would have the functionality out of the box, and the PHP core devs would need to maintain it. Meanwhile, you haven't addressed the point being made as a reason not to bundle, which is that this is not a universally-useful solution, and there needs to be some reason why this needs to be incorporated - under whatever name - any more urgently than a memcache driver, or a redis driver, or igbinary serialisation, or any one of dozens of other extensions. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]