Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:92740 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62471 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2016 17:06:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Apr 2016 17:06:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.44 mail-wm0-f44.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.44] ([74.125.82.44:36162] helo=mail-wm0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 88/4B-00233-69E4E175 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:06:30 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id v188so106264998wme.1 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:to:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hdU7fFo9BglOKfanBG/7WZJ3M9Riu+ljKaP/3nZXuqo=; b=t5JKn2p6LfLSeVDSKuag79qDbLS/GV0HYX5cFJw1SMoK0iCO3fyWcgc9ox+cnCZf1T aLK2p59X/UY5XkOVUrLbprYeutr23QHbQUG5AyVIrvju5Fow/osiiJJ+KTjQ76r79Rb7 I0E/2lj3d3TUhMIs29pgerGBg22YKU+e98eXtTG6rwA7hXdIEv7MTSqgIjcOtetURAAC Vqx+Fio0mmR0MCmg5kQ0bt6UKh5VveQf14vRij/a8ui54I8KCHWiJq0t4ZM3Djq1kpi+ MJGB+to9leYsIpxPXVm2lQ1ckZOODKdhg+geDyJi4sHdkXL760UYYd3fonrfLYTpBlFJ 9B8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hdU7fFo9BglOKfanBG/7WZJ3M9Riu+ljKaP/3nZXuqo=; b=HnUyw7lZdyd6d7bDBU/Qh08Iodu714NXXSPJFTCLbpY7c4x4+mzn/RHPs+t0qBBLpO Rq44o6E/yy3Sa4BZqFL9dhsG3aXZ9x+1bo9Z4qHFE3XSieOJrtV7eZbMYPA8f16j17QY 3kmgo3Sl0igm91tRTB5F6tY1axXo3SdKbQkTMQCED9AermD7tFBHxkseltQ/vwfCQGkK 7O4aW9+RkqoDgIcwqGkmrtMW8/ZluGPEZT4r6EAroPw7T48Gzs7yK6Nz5y5p+vMDFRql avo+3sTkV3xeVYdTmKLseq3utCviTv1SMnhDGJqLiQ1DX9DrE4WdXDi0TnB50zRfjYCs iumw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVaeAgXk9pYNv4ZhE/ySFTLYBR5Sf0XP9WJyz2Jyis+IfN8usc5Bx8RdTgAj6pLDA== X-Received: by 10.28.103.11 with SMTP id b11mr14269360wmc.93.1461603987500; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.82] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id cf6sm24549759wjc.12.2016.04.25.10.06.26 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:06:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <571E2B75.6000909@gmail.com> <7257C7FD-E4AF-47A3-BE5F-28BF6DF89BD1@ez.no> To: "internals@lists.php.net" Message-ID: <571E4E17.5080000@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:04:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7257C7FD-E4AF-47A3-BE5F-28BF6DF89BD1@ez.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Opcache::get($key), set($key, $value) to shared memory, is planned in PHP 7.1? From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) André Rømcke wrote on 25/04/2016 18:00: >> >So I guess the question becomes: "should APCu be made part of core?" I'm not aware of anyone having proposed that, so don't know if there are strong feelings for or against such a thing. > As long as it’s cache is not shared among processes, rather not. > A user cache needs to be able to be shared between cli and web process to cover the main use cases imo. > Yeah, there are many key-value, document-based, and NoSQL stores these days (memcached, redis, couchbase, mongo, etc), and while APCu might be the best in some circumstances, I'm inclined to say it doesn't deserve special privilege within default builds. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]