Newsgroups: php.internals
Path: news.php.net
Xref: news.php.net php.internals:92675
Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm
Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fleshgrinder.com from 77.244.243.86 cause and error)
Reply-To: internals@lists.php.net
References: <20160423230908.BD6F21A800F6@dd1730.kasserver.com>
 <op.ygecex2hhuszwh@tsukapiou.home>
To: Benoit Schildknecht <bensor987@neuf.fr>, internals@lists.php.net
Message-ID: <571C7B79.6030706@fleshgrinder.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 09:53:29 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/38.7.2
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <op.ygecex2hhuszwh@tsukapiou.home>
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256;
 protocol="application/pgp-signature";
 boundary="c7Kr5lEcl5xTLqVWoB6d16LD46kiJgtml"
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP Attributes
From: php@fleshgrinder.com (Fleshgrinder)

--c7Kr5lEcl5xTLqVWoB6d16LD46kiJgtml
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CC2rg03U6SIDuam9bB4eV6mc0WNwtfSkS"
From: Fleshgrinder <php@fleshgrinder.com>
Reply-To: internals@lists.php.net
To: Benoit Schildknecht <bensor987@neuf.fr>, internals@lists.php.net
Message-ID: <571C7B79.6030706@fleshgrinder.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP Attributes
References: <20160423230908.BD6F21A800F6@dd1730.kasserver.com>
 <op.ygecex2hhuszwh@tsukapiou.home>
In-Reply-To: <op.ygecex2hhuszwh@tsukapiou.home>

--CC2rg03U6SIDuam9bB4eV6mc0WNwtfSkS
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 4/24/2016 1:48 AM, Benoit Schildknecht wrote:
> If I was a popular framework creator, this wouldn't stop me. I would
> release two packages : one for 7.0, another one for 7.1. And the 7.0 on=
e
> would be the 7.1 one that has been processed through a script to remove=

> any <<>> syntax, or to transform it (if pre/post attributes instruction=
s
> were to be implemented in the core).
>=20
> Regards,
> Ben.
>=20
> Le Sun, 24 Apr 2016 01:09:08 +0200, "Thomas Bley" <mails@thomasbley.de>=

> a =C3=A9crit:
>=20
>> The <<>> syntax comes with the problem that previous versions cannot
>> ignore it on parsing.
>> So poeple write new frameworks for 7.0 which cannot be parsed in 5.x,
>> then they write new frameworks for 7.1 which cannot be parsed with 7.0=

>> and 5.x and so on.
>> For companies staying on Linux distributions with long term support on=

>> 7.0, this is rather a nightmare for both users and framework maintaine=
rs.
>> When choosing <<>> or any other non-backward compatible syntax for
>> 7.1, there should be a patch for 7.0 to ignore the new syntax without
>> parse errors.
>>
>> Regards
>> Thomas
>>
>=20

That is the nature of a feature release, you find many of those in any
PHP feature release. Think of for instance `yield`, directly results in
a parse error in older PHP versions.

--=20
Richard "Fleshgrinder" Fussenegger


--CC2rg03U6SIDuam9bB4eV6mc0WNwtfSkS--

--c7Kr5lEcl5xTLqVWoB6d16LD46kiJgtml
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"
Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2
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=ll4q
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--c7Kr5lEcl5xTLqVWoB6d16LD46kiJgtml--