Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:92510 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62539 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2016 23:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Apr 2016 23:27:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.44 mail-pa0-f44.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.44] ([209.85.220.44:33789] helo=mail-pa0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/4E-22821-2DEB6175 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 19:27:15 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id zm5so11192961pac.0 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:27:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m8+qVq+6sU48nZYNNdED6pkSOIS9b8gShgPwnoSm3Rk=; b=gPUTCbuwELgK/frHTIxmipeqJKYhj35VJMLjcOV+QD4/9vzNOh7D6ZsVXcc2P1rT4I 6qGJjXAq7EBtaMtmFyKoyuikoKOiyR/QWVjIWd984bTiB5zBbGFFE3Tkd8yRioICqRNF EiOgvc82C9yxqwOllEsUR9ghmoWbWNrqSbMPIUIY35leIsQeDrbHbnpETqRaifJDZNXY 2FnZZxYkpKkX6q2STAb4H2N6bw1fMCqm5oo4t/++7po9WSP5xCVYleIb7BdxD7RK9mnB mIJ6goojHg24OhD1CE+gwTTOnUoqK2CK9dEtWLFD4aeVOfNn5KI7XBgYbPKDsIA4p7NI RbCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m8+qVq+6sU48nZYNNdED6pkSOIS9b8gShgPwnoSm3Rk=; b=OACcNhGdCoDFXbjWYejNM6ocX1fQas5rzClKK7s2udEhII+AUL3eYz6WRzBvnMSq+B 5SkPXhCPBgZTlUZrQemNfuqQzwcAUYhtjeYxt/cNl6uvfeFyA/0Ts+BRnRQ/+8rmVU/G +KVTx3VM8OBXjaLNtxkY4HLnHSyz3dwxJDBqPkvLZvREzvh32GRYPpO4nao8Vz+BOWav IQF8MQ7fZ7T33A1fNHCo6gLhcTgSSZtbHOB4wox+5cK8Zp2Fl8tJrrtU+ioI7E4ZXR0Q fg+fQppT4Grtis60+FzyJMFLyekt48VPSXGi3/3Glufw7OKLuPPuPdLSZQgWHBtEiBfS UCuw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXG2055QcVH5MmCTO8WoTTKaxg3jRHLEt3ukTWS6+0labPOrXy8ybgw/e7jYZp4LA== X-Received: by 10.66.190.131 with SMTP id gq3mr7849674pac.42.1461108432009; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local (76-220-46-95.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [76.220.46.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p78sm33668884pfa.75.2016.04.19.16.27.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:27:10 -0700 (PDT) To: Rick Widmer , internals@lists.php.net References: <5B147E88-CC0A-4CBC-A49D-C7FE3BF557C0@zend.com> <6F.C3.12455.94C5F075@pb1.pair.com> <20160414094440.GF19347@phcomp.co.uk> <570FD94F.90703@fleshgrinder.com> <570FE8A9.4020809@gmail.com> <20.53.29891.17401175@pb1.pair.com> <57110BCD.5030009@garfieldtech.com> <571124C2.9040606@gmx.de> <57112F31.8070209@garfieldtech.com> <57167C35.8080601@gmail.com> <57168FCC.7000507@garfieldtech.com> <5716BAF9.6000302@gmail.com> <5716BD74.9010101@developersdesk.com> Message-ID: <5716BEC9.6010406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:27:05 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5716BD74.9010101@developersdesk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving PHP's type system From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Are too many of these incompatible shiny things, too fast, the main > reason so many PHP users are on older versions? Probably not directly. The reason is PHP 5, as is, is pretty darn good tool for what it is being used for. Of course, it could be 10x faster, it could have more extensions and it could have multithreading and native Unicode support ;) But even as is, it's not bad and allows to do a lot. So people do not feel a burning need to jump to a new version yet, let alone learn new concepts and develop new frameworks based on these concepts. It doesn't mean what we have added in PHP 7 is bad - but it'll probably take some time until people start really using it. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com