Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:92392 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58770 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2016 00:27:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Apr 2016 00:27:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.65 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.65 mail-qg0-f65.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.65] ([209.85.192.65:36104] helo=mail-qg0-f65.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FB/EE-32052-4D924175 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:27:00 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f65.google.com with SMTP id f105so15432178qge.3 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:27:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=cy/ef9uD417jsnQq3I6NGPWecdusd/jP3l2Wy2auOcY=; b=x4D+9WJUPIMiTk9p+mUgpJoV58yB+B3/n7kExqdgz7yJJ5SJqVoeLgdW/OugGTr1AZ BXcaXa6B8k9/4HzRLwybp95kK7/9x9RVDXRpdkvLT+7iFSBsTvjJhCRaYsCXGlmoUiXY AoSJ+bxN+evYqCQlHA4vO9SkL7BiVFe9r72stxv3X762q17DprtSjLVRmnze8DVwSswk u8xFspsnrMX6hKjmqfi+X055ENW7zRmFKP6DC5JxGGeOf11HxkGNHVMHnlQVNfYnDCfE +eKweULtBsWc4VNlIT0hxk9OXP1vrGjksI6ZieuzuevkoSjRsEwd2FC7spgzM3xZFPIQ 9/xQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cy/ef9uD417jsnQq3I6NGPWecdusd/jP3l2Wy2auOcY=; b=Uk/zt75Jol/keHVQMVgztzzgqmp1h6d6QDSWpwvS9ZaAcpw1rw6WYgh6CehSpEt3g8 u6bAi6e+9jWP8cG77VSt+BaJGSVrMvZvX36ECEnjMGQvllGdHsIpgJ2VhKwGxTEVHsa2 0eRfmbx8reRyIX380QXRMaYSWw0nRwtl4bqEqr/k3xw0j3CdieHlBjdUnj4z2Gss+MME UQa/Bmp1m9ZNgms2Vk2LMl99++o9Lx09gnKvjT6BAKfVugiRedsqA6LZhE+EdyYDo3/Z 9UsXL887FOjghrPOYFhES+kD0CxFtuUAEporuO5q/egLUOMr9bdTmHB4uK7a2ugpxsvU S1Aw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWoOk+aFIFFSS1g81/KxGeMPBGVT7VAEvfhwxw04MDzwUhBNhV4sRXTlIXPA4im8MJJOsIsRCCIcISjww== X-Received: by 10.140.109.100 with SMTP id k91mr40029628qgf.54.1460939218106; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:26:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.39.175 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57115F42.2030502@gmail.com> References: <570D2F74.7060702@gmail.com> <57115F42.2030502@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 09:26:18 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: u_A1qgumlewMMDpDMx_RXrCLy_w Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Add session_gc() From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) Hi Stas, On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >> All of PHP users _should_ avoid probability based GC >> whenever it is possible. Why we shouldn't have API that kills >> custom of probability based usage? > > No, they shouldn't. Just claiming that your favorite use case should fit > everybody does not make it so. What's the rationale behind your opinion? I don't see reasonable/logical reasoning. Probability based GC is unreliable and can reactivate very old sessions without "Precise session management RFC" and you opposed the RFC. Reactivating obsoleted/should be deleted session is wrong simply. Why users shouldn't matter? Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net