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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Final properties
From: andre.romcke@ez.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_R=F8mcke?=)

On 14. apr. 2016, at 11.47, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>=20
>> On 14/04/16 08:52, Andr=E9 R=F8mcke wrote:
>> * https://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax-v1.2
>=20
> This actually summarises many of the problems all of these 'extras' are
> creating for very little gain.
>=20
> 'Seconds' is a 'Traditional Property' so is untyped and if accessed as a
> value from some OS's will be a floating point number[...]

It wasn't really the example I intended to point to, it does not represent =
the cases me and others refer to. I was linking to it for the possible solu=
tion to handle type and immutability.

Examples for the latter:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_object

>=20
> I don't see how the idea of 'optimizing' the compiled code has any
> bearing on handling a 'typed property' when one has to have an object to
> contain even the simple of type information?


What is this regarding?=