Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:92265 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40209 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2016 20:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Apr 2016 20:24:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.45 mail-pa0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.45] ([209.85.220.45:36590] helo=mail-pa0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/88-26321-91BAE075 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:24:59 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id er2so8990025pad.3 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:24:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jSX+aC4mr1iwMLd8FsSbqYAYkn879VALStPe4EU6xsg=; b=qkP7QUXGNYzHjEQ/nyAIYm0Kl3qEFewppVi1Go2IjSq3a7NYTgIxNaT2KYdUv7wlyQ E7Uv8ANqCL0CEF4K+epZdQAy1XlG88mtLoaORUsSK7EdRtktnrQ7nB7FaWqd79MlMTW8 1mn1UHPN0eopQPGyMSRM8KHA+1YfLd+kj8U222ivzOf4UdIRBECR2ZezAzYUYgD9XXcp A3SIS7XE5ylEWW6E3NjBky+txRDQuBV9xiJaGTo5WcFaY2bUtlikM7UQAIDp37Z6GFLp PLV04ek96eXrTY2+nKwDqAALFRRcK7kDjBHb9gOmfaVjSEtO8VWCR7/l7zi8dSXHLGQD 5U/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jSX+aC4mr1iwMLd8FsSbqYAYkn879VALStPe4EU6xsg=; b=WbGkbUrIiPSnBOC1vFv5m1g/aRIqwhcE8my8Gy4vcMTg8fsnwbZ4glYhTj4lN8mJsB X8vHoJt6N62hh0CXpwVjHboM+t5PRdX2F5z3kpmaicrOR78gFUebaNWhqeGedOhj9VYk H1ChkgJ0ZCim1ZE7a90K4zf/dEMztcVkYV1+yFEB94WiOmbiiimcq5m86ZeRPTpdBQct UnlUuaUv3sT1FxuOkfxmc4NDXmnXhYBNhluFRY3Hb+2B6f6zj8HdAql/P3x2e8oWZKQc z4gOrUrjxU+mwvA2wfS5e6U3Ah6KlTK7sAOaLulp8fMesT49OR5VmprZdUiRa5er2+/b D8JA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FURIVVf9QOJ3GNFgG3OjYWxNx+ETcKHrnI1UyD2oIBeAxvTwk+vHvQd7EdWFxTCuA== X-Received: by 10.66.139.9 with SMTP id qu9mr15674500pab.101.1460579094114; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local (76-220-46-95.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [76.220.46.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ch2sm53131975pad.28.2016.04.13.13.24.52 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:24:52 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <570E99AC.3090804@fleshgrinder.com> <570EA5EB.8090501@fleshgrinder.com> Message-ID: <570EAB0D.6080706@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:24:45 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <570EA5EB.8090501@fleshgrinder.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving PHP's type system From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > May I suggest you the following article (more of a starting point into > Ceylon actually) regarding this topic: There was a time where PHP was considered a good beginner's language. Now it seems we want to pivot and target category theory PhDs instead? :) -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com