Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91942 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73280 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2016 11:39:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 2016 11:39:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=danack@basereality.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=danack@basereality.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain basereality.com from 209.85.161.177 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: danack@basereality.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.177 mail-yw0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.177] ([209.85.161.177:33069] helo=mail-yw0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DB/A2-15440-17325F65 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 06:39:30 -0500 Received: by mail-yw0-f177.google.com with SMTP id h65so92660308ywe.0 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:39:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nmiCfvy/zHiLlp4eqXIdWaRUJ+9V3tOuuWxqIYY8CXQ=; b=kQst4SEgmngiic86Uvilz1lQV/SCl4bLekhuqy1Cs+F541F1JXfieUU9sGFbJ/tZzS ZiAnwbtLFc9yzzY4o+Di3SsvtQZvMhNwe5kbmDrCkFozYYMc+WQmNTW1BOcRXNzsK6p0 n98n9aptWMSwh6hm3282wbasqn0DdUB9n6kgtEjOrI/MeKEs3QTJbd0lWeUUQm8ZLzv5 ROjqA4tnSRZYHTqeMlMGLWXIL78wAv1AaHqXl4qCodiaJK0gYyrEXbixUhMmI/nJ1/Ju /H6PLCzMK/76gTXyEeJbUoWp4cvGHi+5ZlviVVVPzQFjnab0veYsOLpKlGEKYCSrqHYs 6Trw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nmiCfvy/zHiLlp4eqXIdWaRUJ+9V3tOuuWxqIYY8CXQ=; b=T8NgA4/D7H6BEv8k8b5qXb+nVAruGHSQ6jcYwZcaQ2j6Kg5f9pgJf6wAJWRZ5cMyd2 zATZ0bzdW+GtcMzcD4/2c0CY9qRea3qEMrJtopOQwkYPvXHwLKBjpDaNtrUoLYcQugQa KoxnxkDbyLZ/jSI4WUurfJ4/Q9Jn6ZGW5hF1+usPgvacIMdL1YPR0BSgpK5sH1GXiV05 Zf6i9WWzBWKJ8yUFt9J6CSP8fZJvBo0Q1fJrwZZBxIE4ucvJMqJu4asxYuKU0TIKE2Cn dBk82U2CIxsfbvqw2UCb+dk8fe1E3/Uk0szJ04XXd9Gke9c+F6oLqmMJnSg/6DTdKbLi MI6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJK/dwqcoPxAXcg04X7hLngbgj5kb77cCmDQqjBikPcf4hv5WMRT/jymGtdJ4aS4ACeobSTVlQ3p+3lbrg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.37.230.81 with SMTP id d78mr7002142ybh.134.1458905967028; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.43.85 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:39:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2.99.228.121] In-Reply-To: <9399032E-5BAA-4ABF-81AD-13716790D8DB@gmail.com> References: <9399032E-5BAA-4ABF-81AD-13716790D8DB@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:39:26 +0000 Message-ID: To: Midori Kocak Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Combine ??= and ?:= assignment operator rfc's. From: danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On 25 March 2016 at 10:59, Midori Kocak wrote: > I think it's better idea to combine those two assignment operator RFC=E2= =80=99s. So I am going to close the current one and open ??=3D with ?:=3D Keeping RFCs separate is good in my opinion. In general it allows the discussions to be clear, and that is particularly true here, as there are issues with ternaries in PHP that do not affect null coalesce operators. But in this case, the vote for ??=3D is underway. The only reason to alter the timeline of the vote should be if a severe problem was found with the RFC. So please leave it to run. btw I actually think we ought to have someone other than the RFC author open and close the voting as there have been some votes opened/closed that have been surprises. cheers Dan