Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91935 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41004 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2016 07:12:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 2016 07:12:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 65.55.169.123 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 65.55.169.123 mail-bl2on0123.outbound.protection.outlook.com Received: from [65.55.169.123] ([65.55.169.123:15520] helo=na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C4/2F-15440-FD4E4F65 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 02:12:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=RWSoftware.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-zend-com; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=OMQHzaf7j1dzahlJaxlNfguzR7eylz2qY16HiN+eQW8=; b=HhhghDN9AR+VK4Hf6RlKwfXXsHkxSFEBWBwJU/ZpDP2wmNO889hVB2wOXOyzn3EW8H5DfOgLkPT6b05di5RosfSuFnH/lSG3icw3IVyFpXaZMq7mzaudZRfbZT8BROG8w4+sm87dqbmtRBiXu5J8XENDWXMnc7Nm9zO0iFnZ12I= Received: from BY2PR0201MB1784.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.163.72.26) by BY2PR0201MB1782.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.163.72.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.434.16; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 07:12:28 +0000 Received: from BY2PR0201MB1784.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.72.26]) by BY2PR0201MB1784.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.72.26]) with mapi id 15.01.0434.023; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 07:12:28 +0000 To: Mutlu Kocak , Colin O'Dell CC: PHP Internals Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] var deprecation Thread-Index: AQHRhgG2VdxycU17e0Sqz21WCgyS859pvmPI Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 07:12:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: lists.php.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;lists.php.net; dmarc=none action=none header.from=zend.com; x-originating-ip: [132.245.81.165] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 576902c4-944e-43c2-a04e-08d3547cd368 x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;BY2PR0201MB1782;5:SOVwAsBwK1eqhKL70AGoAHo2SM7KQHixQ69BKQjE+PjQOdvTUV5HccOVJeVBO2qwjgeJ9/zVd1Z+XYFM//7mEN58H8uPUpf+4j5OCqz9ckmAtk7Q45zLIDXcKhUkCydEw4kVaCl2MhSETMWr4+2kvw==;24:SVR9Z0zwxMnpIDZvxjdBcluf3V2F5x8KwPCIupMcB5UMD/5WJwBnDQ3HwwDyW7XQ5mUtRwQWWwYhBC1WuYEbbS6Z0aOq/duh2X9sXm9/J1o= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR0201MB1782; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046);SRVR:BY2PR0201MB1782;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR0201MB1782; x-forefront-prvs: 0892FA9A88 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(24454002)(53754006)(74316001)(1096002)(10400500002)(1220700001)(106116001)(15975445007)(2950100001)(2900100001)(5002640100001)(122556002)(3900700001)(5001770100001)(77096005)(76576001)(2906002)(4326007)(6116002)(102836003)(3280700002)(3660700001)(3846002)(586003)(99286002)(189998001)(86362001)(81166005)(33656002)(11100500001)(66066001)(19580405001)(87936001)(5008740100001)(5004730100002)(5003600100002)(76176999)(54356999)(50986999)(92566002)(18886065003);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:BY2PR0201MB1782;H:BY2PR0201MB1784.namprd02.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;MLV:sfv;LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: zend.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 Mar 2016 07:12:28.4836 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 32210298-c08b-4829-8097-6b12c025a892 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR0201MB1782 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] var deprecation From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) Java is going to add "var" (http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/286), we are going= to remove... ________________________________________ From: mtkocak@gmail.com on behalf of Mutlu Kocak Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 22:15 To: Colin O'Dell Cc: PHP Internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] var deprecation +1 var should be deprecated On Thursday, 24 March 2016, Colin O'Dell wrote: > There have been some last-minute concerns raised about var being reserved > "for future usage". My intent was that var couldn't be used for > function/class names IN CASE it was re-used in the future, but not > encouraging it to be re-used. I'd assume that reusing it would require a > separate RFC to pass by a 2/3rds margin. > > Does anyone disagree with this interpretation or feel that it should be > explicitly stated? Would anyone change their vote from NO to YES if "for > future usage" was removed (but "reserving it" was kept in)? Would anyone > change their vote from NO to YES if the question of "reserving it" could = be > voted on separately? > > If so, and we can stop the vote to make these changes, I'd strongly prefe= r > to do so. I'd hate for three words to sink the entire RFC. > > (My apologies if this belongs in the discussion thread instead) > > Regards, > > Colin > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:40 AM Colin O'Dell > wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > It has been two weeks since discussion started on the RFC to deprecate > and > > eventually remove the "var" keyword (and one month since the idea was > > originally proposed). > > > > This RFC has therefore been moved to the "In Voting" state. Voting wil= l > > begin immediately and will end in one week. > > > > You can find the full RFC (including the proposed patch and automatic > > upgrade tool) here: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/var_deprecation > > > > I encourage everyone to read the RFC and cast your vote towards whichev= er > > option you feel is the best for the language and the community. > > > > Regards, > > > > Colin O'Dell > > > -- Mutlu Ko=E7ak | Computer Scientist & Engineer Mobile: +420775259871 Parizksa 5, Praha 1 Prague Czech Republic Personal Website: http://www.mtkocak.com