Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91906 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31691 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2016 17:39:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2016 17:39:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.217.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.171 mail-lb0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.171] ([209.85.217.171:32997] helo=mail-lb0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D1/C2-15440-06624F65 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:39:45 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id oe12so35765704lbc.0 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:39:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=LnTerYokNSJNzs8opDMzBosqk+C+fFL7Te5XCQY3muw=; b=HaVd6oTFkG6mJHiAghFMWqDtx8t7widxq7k3li2q67AqC/uOjuPdKYoqG491dg9U3Y b4kCQ+uSN934S+6AdKT7rwfWX8XBKw9A8i4c2MAp+a3zx1cpERn75jz7NSO/+NN/sZ5a Z+EQQYLvQNjh7GC2CKro3DwmDlZsIFyyoRqoYT72GtwxnC5p6zREs+XSvw0GohWQ8RJe Py0cDb2E6cTwc/TU9zm8moOrz7og/bKQMXxkUlRsH0Y9ZXRfnM+do9rR0fmIPejfu72y 21C4CvSDx5rdjuRfCEVlh2zSLj/Xoj9T5GM15uETXtHsGlBfUKauhXBdDGvIx/aGQpWj EPqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=LnTerYokNSJNzs8opDMzBosqk+C+fFL7Te5XCQY3muw=; b=SUJZxglUHkJY62FeRCnNPLMaj1J4QcVqemR++037u/evmFXu7ZvUUK8kntOUW6oyG0 z9sbrxG/Hh6XK0/60rtBXJclAtheUyJk/tnp4KXUeaQPlySAT3JSYeLsPBtb/Q/+YqHD WwyIYFSd4JQhGQ9Vj+Nt7j151iJISBimsdmXozA2UK62aIArdMhhIyTaf1t6n6QHvbqw j1AHZJLLObpw/lqcEscw/01xLqomovuebcmWmGOul5iPEPrZ4PhVKswrd+lyqkmCMT5s BqujqLDBAuF4GtUcgiTBCYN5sfn28jStLdXip1gWcfxw9lqZcq5yCKLkZdh4ZiERwlu1 ixSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI7avTFL1aEPVVN4NjI2PDZ9vtbFAIRlLLK7fAM96EXHNr0jm/AU2mPfnVA3rHSqz/Oq/hv5tn0+onx1g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.235.5 with SMTP id ui5mr4150577lbc.111.1458841180994; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.112.18.75 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:39:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [107.198.91.68] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:39:40 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QEQnxQRz6npZdMFMku7Hr1ik2ts Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Vote] Short Ternary Assignment Operator From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Nikita Popov wrote: > To clarify, as the RFC only mentions this by implication: > > unset($x); // Assume $x is undefined > $x ?:= $y; > > This will throw a notice, correct? > Yes. The equivalent short-ternary: $x = $x ?: $y; would throw a notice, so the assignment version should (and would) as well.