Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91862 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42171 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2016 18:52:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Mar 2016 18:52:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.46 mail-wm0-f46.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.46] ([74.125.82.46:35424] helo=mail-wm0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2B/62-30596-37491F65 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:52:36 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id l68so166322443wml.0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:52:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sy+isTtu/LDbbuxjyJPOl/bEqWdlCS32bG2pRK9vNYI=; b=WAxA94iD6mhggBa+8ub2pzqP/5rwp3v4MHyPqQFd48vZ9LVftousXK7qc2QnyhUqZS TWYJljvIcxq7uZ+buVFPnoti+N9ku2MUmGqZCzuyr4XoBr0CelZH/rb+gnObSmcobjsc HknG06dqh9Qt8xx31P0LRO0JykBLJlRqd3AMLGAAWAglGxUbOqi4+Lj+hFPEGnETeXNA cBxstR4Ot8xHwg1tUAwoG10UmQ1vCSXlsGoS9cnlKJML/xf4VXV6gfmhZv6gJYdwbDcB 9toa5hQ50nKPaL8sZewhz9lOzRT0i1r6AMk0/ER/6OG9pxoqLo/Fl8eDtkzl1nCGIQwb KbQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sy+isTtu/LDbbuxjyJPOl/bEqWdlCS32bG2pRK9vNYI=; b=NwzZoxAVyI7d2fhoYWnV867fvdw6e/sRqnTXsSGOx1vdUpT0Lfbp+GTSU4I4edZZLc Z1jpg5M/1xGbPjCTNfF1ePHetBvHIxqDhDLjaevnBsfL43CbJRAQe1eB01a+qE2AWMJV Z7dHPu2JNjwtj0oxZHHiJs7nIp2g5d3h+rHGQe6vjYHIce4FvxXww8weGUXidXETMqBB vBCiM6FPkPDlau3Ocz/IQ9CFSjGsnKPbfJRkmhZYOjcc4fX6TunBkFpCl/t0/glMYnMd +dz4Ni2+ZksgQD6OB1/ffxB49BaOto/Sx6qt8aIPNcqURQBWblT7OQJZ0HIJq5QHikcP lgFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJL8y8FRFoWxaNvmMu1Wob/5gFiIgnJKEXAf64JcLCQAy+f/u5QOLjsYzpcaNqvnnA== X-Received: by 10.28.111.12 with SMTP id k12mr21252324wmc.35.1458672751980; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.82] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i137sm17125849wmf.18.2016.03.22.11.52.31 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: <56F19429.6070402@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:51:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Deprecate then Remove Mcrypt Closed (23-6) From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Scott Arciszewski wrote on 22/03/2016 18:09: > 1. Emailinternals@lists.php.net to measure reaction to your intended > proposal. This bit was definitely done, here: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=145218573626243&w=2 > * Send email tointernals@lists.php.net introducing your RFC. > > I did this two months ago. This is the step that Ferenc is saying doesn't appear to have happened. There's no mention of the RFC in that discussion thread, and I can't see any post from you on the subject between you creating the wiki page (on 9th Jan) and putting it to vote (on 15th March). You then proceeded to clarify the RFC while voting was open, which is what the initial discussion period is intended to avoid - all of these edits could and should have been included before people were asked to vote: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mcrypt-viking-funeral?do=diff&rev2%5B0%5D=1458057988&rev2%5B1%5D=1458149335&difftype=sidebyside I'm not accusing you of any malicious intent, but I do agree with Ferenc that the vote seems to have been rather rushed through, and I'm not sure why you passed up his suggestion of cancelling the vote to tighten up the RFC. PHP 7.1 isn't going to come out any time soon, and deprecation is a tiny change anyway, so there's really no hurry. :) Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]