Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91705 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25266 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2016 18:41:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Mar 2016 18:41:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:36459] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3F/4B-48430-8E8A9E65 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:41:45 -0500 Received: by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E28E144DA6; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 19:41:41 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on km31408.keymachine.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Received: from [192.168.2.34] (ppp-46-244-174-245.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.174.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDD9B44DA4; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 19:41:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1458153695.3969.16.camel@kuechenschabe> To: Bob Weinand Cc: Phil Sturgeon , "internals@lists.php.net" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 19:41:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1458149992.3969.2.camel@kuechenschabe> <1458151531.3969.8.camel@kuechenschabe> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-4bpAOpUA/8j/bCJ02BEV" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Discussion] Typed Properties From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) --=-4bpAOpUA/8j/bCJ02BEV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2016-03-16 at 19:15 +0100, Bob Weinand wrote: >=20 > Eih, only to typed properties. Everything else would be insane ;-) > Sorry for being imprecise. Ok, quite a lot better, but still weird difference to the language.=20 There's a notable amount of places where references are being used and often users aren't aware. (Binding parameters in database queries, in order to support OUT parameters, comes to mind, many array functions take an array, some functions use it to report error codes, ...) I guess this will be a famous support issue. And yeah, I'd love to "fix" all those places and get rid of the references, but BC ... it's quite massive :-) johannes --=-4bpAOpUA/8j/bCJ02BEV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJW6ajfAAoJEH3sTmn8nIPXMz4H+wU/dvR1WDNOmhyJgtuUvr+S cStulPuWmuRA688IaPuctPTGRUh7KQgYA+Z7tdcuvjbvsj1CM0mANftJdLPHpn19 Az7mxuQiRqj2orXvlec0qJo4I0ltK90ROF2F4aQ+wopWl9B6MZarilnNU6/VQd7V Qrwf5gaIO10BhSewFu4CIElBlMczBDfJoNrKvdZoWVZsBCuD9y2OvXE+/mbW12N1 oHzWi3CxnlTQ1O8siKqchCHtDI3RTSlKyblFuWvnr9cheud4kW0sNnObJ5ycYfQc VGlotDUUvVxDRT2uv0aca8kP5DZAEZmd6dcCvoBnr0nLKPfDL+H9/XnuHeO4nfg= =2UyY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-4bpAOpUA/8j/bCJ02BEV--