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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Exceptions and Errors
From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans)

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Andi Gutmans wrote:

> I don't like these ideas. I think it should stay the way it is and not only
> because we're at RC2.
> If Thies doesn't want to deal with this, then he can write constructors
> without logic. It's not that hard for the one in many classes where this
> might be needed.

He's FORCED to do this if extensions use this exception throwing from
constructors. Which is exactly his point here as we're now forcing
people to use this weird exception thing for no reason other than to
satisfy OO purists.

Derick