Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91638 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6821 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2016 16:50:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2016 16:50:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.49 mail-pa0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.49] ([209.85.220.49:36834] helo=mail-pa0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7B/41-00836-357F2E65 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:50:27 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id tt10so103352679pab.3 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:50:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=qnGU3C8XshDnDBLIFODqJAFESz+uC9m/7CQAq2c/SCk=; b=RahPEZP81uFnTNDJYQyMvQqwK+g63IHNUk5EjwN7GzAYSmIxKYU99MEnZYdStpsaVE ElB5y8ieO8WxQHJd9NTi4gqcrwl0m6YBRTWcEiJtX8goe3qE9bRUFuBMz8i4S7rxnBC+ 8kMOsB+mlc+RMf3wQiLbt9AijutkPBnEJkGr2S3Gn2rqpfNIufgxKd/0sUsplt+88h7b 3p0/sEgCvxWN21i6n1ft737v4hsHdD9EF/PyyvPOTwMi9OlrhI5ubDAWiX04UxPtET5M adSJYg85A2Tia8ZfKNXIrBUDIeEnv9/hQGJiC1EoAlQoyCzRYIH6YuB20NyMT9nwUth2 qUDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=qnGU3C8XshDnDBLIFODqJAFESz+uC9m/7CQAq2c/SCk=; b=aph4VlrFrnQpvSBwWLBw2HC+wYzwBG1pBb+HE4uR/1+iKHsszmMg2bRcaQMbncKXcR 8ayUPRvYFAIeTNtYrW3Hp5RR3DPkwa3dtcNC9RuR99B6xyHiIGrFe2JHUeB5kguIV1tI RA+IJf6aUzdBjYsx6tjWmhzu4e8qlaB1pv/jnLgyKniWjjyiGPCvxWgHgKSpHc/xcTfn lapRFGO75BbzbVZ7j/F9sHDjVhXvWPdC7cAfenUt/Ks+nS/i5wLvp2RO4Q+GSz9YydUQ C24JIIGQzBKrYKiQYIwTGDefehaftdgW5q0DXNSvScj83AzEgVHaZ1PCEmRLbGxvD0yL +K0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJXqqPgNxnIOlhksKOJFIWal5s1tMwgtaeSrNPg23beIYQiQA8qNXBTfkpsGy63yMkCRfZM6lGoFWOkfg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.132.73 with SMTP id os9mr17202792pab.27.1457715024607; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:50:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.66.163.232 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:50:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:50:24 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HQtueuv2BqOH8K2aPQVyj2ezIA0 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Precise session management From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:14 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > The RFC is > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/precise_session_management > The PR is > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1734 > > I suppose almost all questions and discussion is finished, but > if you have any, please comment/ask. After talking to a few people I still don't understand this RFC. That makes me nervous. I think partly this is due to the many issues trying to be solved inside this one RFC. To be frank, a large part of it also comes from the fact that the phrasing is difficult to understand. In summary, I can't feel good about voting yes on this RFC because I don't understand it. I've honestly tried, but I don't really get it, nor have several other people I have talked to. Additionally there appear to be BC breaks though I can't really judge their impact. Given that this is a minor release I don't think it's a good idea to break BC. I will wait for someone to respond to this email before voting, but unless I am convinced by further discussion I will be voting no.