Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91621 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21671 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2016 19:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Mar 2016 19:10:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.45 mail-pa0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.45] ([209.85.220.45:33269] helo=mail-pa0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/16-18364-D86C1E65 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:10:05 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id fl4so73478260pad.0 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:10:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HXU4hCCGr54/Ls0+bOHCtpMNMBR4Hmb4ckwZEiVOCno=; b=gKwdeOIjHlrrJfH8I4iMOs8tAwjq0AxH0sd550igK1JVqc5i1T5dNiazSRL6AfkfkJ uie1rt7MiPcOoINFGyDFsIJZDO2R/RjADzVXvoNhfttPn+64dTVCmIXv6JcjDSTk8Xjv /QfvtgScrbEHJkZvNU2+2N2tNKMV6ln73jTJhANCvBoIf/XdOhCaqz5EJLlYa8rDpGN7 IDlJ+UAmoxOg782aQedJNdgzJpMAPHon1oRiXHpHRCO9I8Z2ed0VLtmOtr7XLjCA7j7i ibfcs00X2iknAeLzvNqe1/zlQN98q8HFnfDLlCn/aBjm8lqiWgOjEuZsCWgKbXlMO5JB xR8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HXU4hCCGr54/Ls0+bOHCtpMNMBR4Hmb4ckwZEiVOCno=; b=NRq1tzyPp6+01ywpabdwbc88GBzcm2jWLF5BHEwCKGe12U/Bx3GS3zxs0qnnrfzors CbCGgWpAJJ9rG4JPjpNtA4hYL8iHjwpp6NTJi9ulrzr5OCau+UgECLACz0ogDHi2rOZT Gkdg0wiOfeY7PnVAP5dERO8urq9OEEUI+POZdN2G+u4CW9aw6RnrtMsSw+1D50Tiu16T aTxTbmnXHdW985sdPeyzDTa8MqQKrxYOlPjqtCn8eMB7IczhqXbnVszeyZLBMnnA0nlP NswROiHG5uxtYrtr3iG4NSKvZhMLdz68TagkVYLoeUcplSvahrRgfZjAWARa1M9uTCyE q9Mw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI2IOVIHPCuzB7Q6xQhgDKhLjEZfvk1se/z6AQyW9plzlKM4bmutBrzN+pFOAMhzw== X-Received: by 10.66.150.170 with SMTP id uj10mr7190555pab.91.1457637002365; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air.local (tan1.corp.wikimedia.org. [198.73.209.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ah10sm7297961pad.23.2016.03.10.11.10.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) To: Colin O'Dell , PHP Internals References: Message-ID: <56E1C688.1000503@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:10:00 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Discussion] "var" Deprecation From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > I have completed my initial draft of the RFC to deprecate "var" in favor of > "public": https://wiki.php.net/rfc/var_deprecation As I already stated here, I think this is needless change which only creates BC problems and does not add anything to the language. The RFC incorrectly claims "var" is "legacy functionality", in fact it is not - the functionality, namely public properties, are still very much in use, it's just different keyword to invoke it. I still see absolutely no value in claimed "clean up", which achieves no usable goal (minimizing number of constructs in the language has never been considered a worthy goal in PHP). -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com