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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:23:37 +0000
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Proposal] var keyword deprecation/removal
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

Tony Marston wrote on 08/03/2016 09:51:
> a
> "Rowan Collins"  wrote in message news:56DD64F5.5010503@gmail.com...
>>
>> Tony Marston wrote on 07/03/2016 09:14:
>>> That takes brains and discipline, something which appears to be 
>>> lacking in the PHP community.
>>> [...]
>>>  just because some numpty decides
>>> [...]
>>> groups of competent professionals and not an army of chimpanzees.
>>>
>>
>> Please try to refrain from personal insults.
>
> That was not a personal insult as it was not aimed at an individual 
> person. I was borrowing from the saying that "if you put a million 
> typewriters in front of a million chimpanzees they will eventually 
> produce the works of Shakespeare" 

Regardless of the exact definition of "insult", you are repeatedly 
questioning people's competence, professionalism, and intelligence; this 
is not a productive approach to a debate. So again, I would invite you - 
and others on this thread - to step back and put the emotion to one side.

Clearly, there is a difference of opinion, and that difference probably 
isn't going to go away by repeating the same points in different words, 
so let's try to think of productive ways forward.

You have mentioned stability as a good aim, and have given the examples 
of COBOL and UNIFACE which we might learn something from; Richard has 
mentioned that lack of consistency being a frequent criticism of PHP. Is 
there some way we can formulate a policy, based on experience elsewhere, 
of how to balance those two aims?

Regards,
-- 
Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]