Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91526 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39749 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2016 11:26:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Mar 2016 11:26:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.52 mail-wm0-f52.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.52] ([74.125.82.52:37405] helo=mail-wm0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DD/DC-29316-8656DD65 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 06:26:33 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id p65so66584274wmp.0 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 03:26:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FlVqF2x1ctSWi+UZumz3N9216ck4eSePRN4iW1Xzr8s=; b=wl+F9rG/2YpKqPEksCeUEDlEhhtqIeUyKwjhpyRqoPim8p1/diq6WBjFSC6JpoNegx wy7kPAqfSH+CD394kR4IhLI8DcutsxN5pjV+qtlx8ATee4x5NXdQBylSziNrafm9XB1m 84qVANwVRI+4tUYz+MdcGBgvnYVmHKfYZHtyfeKD/02pdlSS5ssTgmpq+86kumcraBk6 /jyvST9GBlmJr1dA/A9ag1yGWt3mmfJqP7+rtONqP1cjMNXchbrpta4sYdClEGEglixg xp9+Rz/Ga21X0Vv9LpjNqM8++f3Mn3ga9RfcLlv0KFlTs/whm/4LTzHXIGEC5Vr6ms3Y UcFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FlVqF2x1ctSWi+UZumz3N9216ck4eSePRN4iW1Xzr8s=; b=ckd3DaWBTsKICMGR7bz2EmYnD4gRFl20iCVPOdKFdTJEWC9E+NOXlx8/ZpR3Vg51Aj +LLtxuY2uVzEiskDn8nAlDDqepIhz1y9e4ysaUms1p/fdliHnIZOVDxU/5lFYRrwIq/0 X3UoV/32L+9HSRZkMICoRVvPMjKHCXl3gBZgeW3dvPuMgXTnIqmbVfhRIgErDDU/IJsr hXDbzEvpgbJ1dcOFtrqIWfUTfGzKYWPyFtM+5SF2e0PogHE2ifffmZbAN2oQi1AlFv/b HkzITxAbmG5muxjXI7BzbIK/2Jj3lLG93SBl6TbKFmcSUwzeHRNuqy5kFFwQn1X9oVuW Qd1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIVjopJGjRbzIqiHfChcMHMbMNomihrw0O7+Y7RSvQBoYMhhKQzaIWfWkxAZ2j31w== X-Received: by 10.28.179.84 with SMTP id c81mr12218040wmf.13.1457349989693; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 03:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.152] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j18sm13315083wmd.2.2016.03.07.03.26.28 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2016 03:26:28 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1F.91.55238.41F10D65@pb1.pair.com> <56D42CD3.6020602@gmail.com> <56D57DF4.8000906@gmail.com> <56D5D2AD.6070805@gmail.com> <56D5DDA6.4080607@fleshgrinder.com> <40.73.36499.548B6D65@pb1.pair.com> <56D6BBD0.5010505@gmail.com> <56D73386.3000903@fleshgrinder.com> <86.68.21983.A2508D65@pb1.pair.com> <56D86C00.6000904@fleshgrinder.com> <12.FB.08749.AF759D65@pb1.pair.com> <56DAC26C.50304@fleshgrinder.com> <56DAE00F.2030203@lsces.co.uk> <56DAF480.7030508@fleshgrinder.com> <0B.E0.29316.019CBD65@pb1.pair.com> <56DBFDB5.1010806@fleshgrinder.com> <43.5B.29316.A864DD65@pb1.pair.com> Message-ID: <56DD64F5.5010503@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:24:37 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <43.5B.29316.A864DD65@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Proposal] var keyword deprecation/removal From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Tony Marston wrote on 07/03/2016 09:14: > That takes brains and discipline, something which appears to be > lacking in the PHP community. > [...] > just because some numpty decides > [...] > groups of competent professionals and not an army of chimpanzees. > Please try to refrain from personal insults. I haven't read the last few messages in this sub-thread, so to be clear, this applies equally to everyone, and is in no way a comment on who is "right". Whatever the provocation, there is always a choice available to resist emotional responses, and re-focus the discussion onto technical issues, or just summarise your position in neutral terms and agree to disagree. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]