Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91476 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11576 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2016 18:40:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2016 18:40:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@fleshgrinder.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@fleshgrinder.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fleshgrinder.com from 212.232.28.124 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@fleshgrinder.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.232.28.124 mx203.easyname.com Received: from [212.232.28.124] ([212.232.28.124:58017] helo=mx203.easyname.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E5/42-21983-A9337D65 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 13:40:27 -0500 Received: from cable-81-173-133-29.netcologne.de ([81.173.133.29] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by mx.easyname.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1abBh9-0005fc-B3 for internals@lists.php.net; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 18:40:23 +0000 Reply-To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1F.91.55238.41F10D65@pb1.pair.com> <56D42CD3.6020602@gmail.com> <56D57DF4.8000906@gmail.com> <56D5D2AD.6070805@gmail.com> <56D5DDA6.4080607@fleshgrinder.com> <40.73.36499.548B6D65@pb1.pair.com> <56D6BBD0.5010505@gmail.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <56D73386.3000903@fleshgrinder.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 19:40:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56D6BBD0.5010505@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7Ln9h7pipsFbFQgVmbP615rd4w4vjWt8L" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Proposal] var keyword deprecation/removal From: php@fleshgrinder.com (Fleshgrinder) --7Ln9h7pipsFbFQgVmbP615rd4w4vjWt8L Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="5130o1dBHRAXNgNNuAHIla3o10Sr67Nau" From: Fleshgrinder Reply-To: internals@lists.php.net To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <56D73386.3000903@fleshgrinder.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Proposal] var keyword deprecation/removal References: <1F.91.55238.41F10D65@pb1.pair.com> <56D42CD3.6020602@gmail.com> <56D57DF4.8000906@gmail.com> <56D5D2AD.6070805@gmail.com> <56D5DDA6.4080607@fleshgrinder.com> <40.73.36499.548B6D65@pb1.pair.com> <56D6BBD0.5010505@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <56D6BBD0.5010505@gmail.com> --5130o1dBHRAXNgNNuAHIla3o10Sr67Nau Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/2/2016 11:09 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > I think the point was that *the difference between* "var" and "public" > was being abused, which wouldn't be possible if there were only one > keyword. >=20 > However, I agree that it's a very weak argument for removal (just as "I= > [ab]use 'var' to mean something different from 'public'" is a weak > argument against removal). >=20 > Regards, It showcases what the studies about UI/UX found out about duplicated behavior (or call it aliasing, multiple choices for the same thing, ...).= People are confused and we can and should avoid that. The "var" keyword once emitted an E_STRICT but I guess it was turned off again because too many people were complaining as they are now. --=20 Richard "Fleshgrinder" Fussenegger --5130o1dBHRAXNgNNuAHIla3o10Sr67Nau-- --7Ln9h7pipsFbFQgVmbP615rd4w4vjWt8L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW1zOOAAoJEOKkKcqFPVVrKCwQAKdxIJoid4LwoUgQDCRnenQW qtdqRqEQxvOgTuLNZuuo+WdOCQ07cKA9BcxwDuWsgSzGyD5t2PHmCZe+FvWm9Vz4 NZmpnAHPHpMYbcVk0QtXDHb1CIc9E1J8v0PEswtmBJ45kwdwYIwRbqeVhl/7eXgd JxlbCjBpYCS7zWelVlrGVgJyeZuPePUxl+GxmFyrqvvge15jQ9NXJNJinVtCXxHe kt9M4eKntLw8OP548YQ7tbYpBKGwsiXlzlvyMm+x+8j7ft7mHbbABMqlfqD2DtVc T1VeAW4FcVL+gac+aCaoxagSuoCfM6mLpBqLsyn1qAh3k+muq+Yc2SNI4hWeveMP hh/sBI+Hoe23GOj9ybXbCCnO//fKwnxFkHO/VTID+/4/ItvvxGBwdeVyAKaNe7nI 6dz/a16f0AiFzDyA+07YUNDVhtZ+Qj6Nrvst/EX6h5tMM41fyJoTcXdwn3f0e6Vj vEV4WsLCN8QNNK/dnBYn5hYcTmWdJZD69EfXg0NWYU8SKF8HgJpmocpGYf4vISqt VTNNU9D8SXeGagE38W/AmRftBY3OYMvd1Zz6GHKqnSo9RcPQBW0zIgIq3PGMVvoS IA2b7m1qsBy9FEjLWWpFJcImuoWjHRue7kO6GuP2TKME4rWr4sSPS2B6XX6U5zwo 26dKtHfH7bQkP6Q7ZSii =Cfsv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7Ln9h7pipsFbFQgVmbP615rd4w4vjWt8L--