Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91472 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62941 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2016 06:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2016 06:19:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.44 mail-pa0-f44.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.44] ([209.85.220.44:33752] helo=mail-pa0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D1/B1-36499-FF586D65 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:19:43 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fl4so126845915pad.0 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 22:19:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2+9x2t8fkZZza6D05bxkzjwHj7PaGn6nYe96ZteEABk=; b=B9eOH3iBinvNnmJz0AcjcOdTT1+xQF7GN8SsfemCqkmNLJSHlUSQxw5WUGzwuxl9Ri 1xDiq2AQWPB1kTtfBD5FLQ4qLnO9oc+y6OX3gHpDTy4nv43U4am6Hb5AqBM34R6KAfdX DaI6UwbaVox9pZwcz1TRVZK18DJQQ+4FRQwzV2RO0oRkBSRINymheJetaFvY3bzdZmiM 5qJKAZZmJlXvZuvNLpTVA7vakArG2tS35FYYzukaMfk1bbfRkat2gOnJCWcBYnl/KGMx Qb2C9p6ozKkdYjGt85eNtBFsM8H72vvESUj9XfRunHEGPyWewjZE6qRYL5UCv2KzQn5k IQYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2+9x2t8fkZZza6D05bxkzjwHj7PaGn6nYe96ZteEABk=; b=TpCFGspzApeDfC9RsouUluY0tLx0+n2pFoeP45vdynztGu8gTL79ZQGvGaL+fKxNHu PFHgBGP+GTxaSrcJnPWGoRA2SwiPhkSL1yy8yUzCGdSfJ+Y5sEBV5RbSBMYVMCQgIiFP XP15A/jvMNkrrWOeB6cZ9fFdxh9htsgar/KjsSosRnJYDbnfYbRdw/aJ6zTJBOPH7t8J 5hLHk1AnGZ0gbAF0FoPVRZvV6DcyHbPjm3kArNJgU/EdcD8vJpTeLyzOvjYOdq4yvlZe CY9KAbaLxYt7tA1fd+VkqYM4WDdQ5dNuGpKS8IaChkqtLYXFEk/dgeKcbRC0vyQ+oEFq G8gg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIY3wiMeulc5HYrIOEvozxSpc4nqRe0QYTdHae+LdV2bQ0UBpUHXKClt2RqZ2n8Zg== X-Received: by 10.66.220.66 with SMTP id pu2mr36173089pac.115.1456899580683; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 22:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air.local (76-220-46-95.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [76.220.46.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m16sm49744537pfi.75.2016.03.01.22.19.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Mar 2016 22:19:39 -0800 (PST) To: Dan Ackroyd , "internals@lists.php.net" References: Message-ID: <56D685FA.8040900@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 22:19:38 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Callable constructors From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > If constructors had always been callable in PHP, this would be a > standard thing to do and not controversial imo. It's only due to > reasons lost in the mists of time, that object instantiation can only > be invoked via 'new' that it's not possible currently, and so needs an > RFC to change. Constructors have always been callable in PHP and still are. They are functions like any other. What you need is a factory method, not a constructor - constructor is called to initialize object, not create it. But you can create factory methods at will, you just don't have to call it __construct. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com