Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91457 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14041 invoked from network); 29 Feb 2016 09:55:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Feb 2016 09:55:32 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.177.120.119 marston-home.demon.co.uk Received: from [80.177.120.119] ([80.177.120.119:21916] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FA/10-10408-29514D65 for ; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 04:55:30 -0500 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1F.91.55238.41F10D65@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 09:55:18 -0000 Lines: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3564.1216 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3564.1216 X-Posted-By: 80.177.120.119 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Proposal] var keyword deprecation/removal From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") "James Titcumb" wrote in message news:CAKnqCEY7art1GUWG=Pm0wyPGQmYp0Dq8oxdohgBkSGq+O_BTZw@mail.gmail.com... > >On 28 Feb 2016 06:18, "Jakub Kubícek" wrote: >> >> I see a difference in its >> _semantics_. While the `public` modifier states anyone can change the >> property, `var` is useful for marking internal properties which must >> be public, but should not be manipulated by simply anybody > >If it's public, it will be modified by someone. Incorrect. It *may* be modified, but surely any invalid modifications will be detected in the testing phase? > This isn't an intended >semantic meaning of `var`, and simply saying "don't modify this please" is >never going to be enough. Make them private, protected or public and make >your intent clear, because for anyone unfamiliar with this design will >simply translate `var` to mean `public`, and use it as such. If "var" is automatically translated into "public", and has been since PHP 5 emerged, and has been documented to behave in this way, then what does it cost to leave it that way? Answer: NOTHING! -- Tony Marston