Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91376 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66881 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2016 12:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Feb 2016 12:00:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-yw0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:36061] helo=mail-yw0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DC/7C-38634-A7B9DC65 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 07:00:59 -0500 Received: by mail-yw0-f170.google.com with SMTP id e63so12837499ywc.3 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 04:00:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=keanUvz7PRvXgOJxnMUQwjrqUaoNHHVOfNZUYOZAuM8=; b=Y4CPHwXx7clekhkCSvzUgDSspYnw3uxiOP/zEyNVhO9KQpwXzPO9pwMsg9+bCY8U9N ZriYdxBthB7Nkck6i/PPahGvfSQdGF12RNspzx7MEj3uXgMki1Deum1aNHImP6xspWPN A4NEZfFi2lwN4qZ9aTMRfJM49JZvKeT7ltTSiBHJS1gb+kEZnCIkqLHlcjSJWpNviZcL bvMYcp6KBS9z3rYv4MN7QXiIdsgA8XZZiRqeryBOlG6Ta8C30fmpjizj2zk4BqJK59vL gQgxwlEv1QLIbGS1tnTRvJ2BPDIG3QHrCu+THqV9iXg5wDO1vxdjhHRQkTIlhKKZo+/Q 4+Ig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=keanUvz7PRvXgOJxnMUQwjrqUaoNHHVOfNZUYOZAuM8=; b=VkDl+fPUk9ZbZ3296CHyw4ataagR7KGYZXd9MneL+81+bb4Jr7NOYbPFut9SIy4yLo FczxImFYkVuQkaB9b4cZxJiAyezZwj0pl7YxFzaXHKyqJgiCf6gu6btLEhxbP9/8sOxy EpUjriwmSjTIs3AGVQUYbfdxSeMTTDXydSMm+9LL8TE+03crs6BqoVgT2bFxrJxQtiRm Tlq+yI82O/8dKHAgKfyZA1OgK1Nwr8vrEBUuZnHKNS+Czk/l85nUPXcLbsyn8Pl1y5cU yamLZJQ4Owjg2qovYQQi1AoIMV2ywCTNc4pbLazdaikvZGXCvLf4Jl+z13Jw18xCOtea dUFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOS3hfnO7iIZjC/lqHDE2y4+FtWQoOdmqiYvSy0tfijStZ9mvpsZjg0uqqCJrHURx2OTTKfRh2TaQWqmCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.50.15 with SMTP id y15mr18841572ywy.305.1456315255557; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 04:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.129.148.70 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 04:00:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:00:55 +0100 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11408dae7d2f96052c82d18f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PRNG: Raise warning and/or provide better pseudo random generator? From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --001a11408dae7d2f96052c82d18f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi all, > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > Any comments for adding out of range warnings to rand()/mt_rand()? If > > nobody has comment on this, I'll write RFC for additional warnings. > > Anyone prefer to extend rand()/mt_rand() for 64bit OSes? > > I'll write RFC to raise errors for invalid range, hopefully this weekend. > > Thank you for feedback! > I think it would be preferable to wait a bit -- there's clearly interest in replacing rand/mt_rand etc with a higher quality PRNG, so maybe lets give people time to create a proposal for that before we start throwing warnings. Nikita --001a11408dae7d2f96052c82d18f--