Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91356 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51573 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2016 11:29:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Feb 2016 11:29:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.50 mail-wm0-f50.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.50] ([74.125.82.50:34150] helo=mail-wm0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 68/81-38634-C724CC65 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 06:29:01 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f50.google.com with SMTP id b205so195208715wmb.1 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 03:29:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nVMj0Gon8Qopg1uXqI0CLFCWtZmdRoEVqsUESfyJgqE=; b=iw9X5l7kaRuMEsPRshr3UGjL3NQKLf6JIr9KUrpD1FHmJuEp54VzmZGhroihuFein3 vGIuaGLcNO1KQX86OPZM97mHlYfPC0aD74NN4K6qvuvyvTL9feuePZZ/Jcn9Cs6urJLd +fatsKRoKk1axXunjiywirRqSsOkHHHwI7zKHE5JztregxeKysGxzmxWYrPIMXhsF2se zKkrn9aK+8IpqL14FpiicWheaA3cbcNZLta/VjOAmzLhjFExzbZbRiT0P8PgiI5A2i/J 25njuo+TI//QTbvpURL9kARSPVIYPZ6mor3FdV0WQce0didPlhEcf0D+fSoPT8H0VBFa CyJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nVMj0Gon8Qopg1uXqI0CLFCWtZmdRoEVqsUESfyJgqE=; b=JlSDJ9nfFZNjqsmM3pR6PIeM5t7X4puvQqP67dKgle3JoolxXRLv/SP3pZXXSfAssR ScnN/+ehAj7ixavWjISahnNHE8J9IwR117kX/Gvmekc5WEclau3dHJqoNPel2QYU9Crj U5ewELfpIfIkfukKVxePXC2RHBl6Se9WWZyVSg2+khPlIh3SJtJCek7p46q4viR/CyjT 3RbL3+DKx14br2c0T2arrtINgpZpNF3/KLfbkEQluy4as9+oDL+RBI8Nds0jfvvOA4Dk ecN6On2FxEvdzdfvRuamDInxI5MOVushrIW23pB1iMlfYf4DTrVd1ZbVsxBx0IAFnK3w 4bDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSPOgyBpNvMoq36DOJZhW6rmQU1/G5mmJkmT6d4CFaqBKFRwKN5V5I3YNfulSUNjg== X-Received: by 10.28.183.137 with SMTP id h131mr18679211wmf.100.1456226937340; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 03:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.136] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g3sm29280358wjw.31.2016.02.23.03.28.56 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 03:28:56 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: <56CC4211.7000207@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:27:13 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Adopt Ruby Code of Conduct From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) benjamin barber wrote on 19/02/2016 13:08: >> The Ruby Community Conduct Guideline >> We have picked the following conduct guideline based on an early draft of >> the PostgreSQL CoC It's interesting to know what other communities are doing. I understand Postgres are in a similar position to us - they have some initial principles, and are discussing what if any formal Code of Conduct to build on top of them. It sounds like Ruby have picked up those principles. > Most importantly it doesn't allow a persons feelings, to > override the technical merits of a persons arguments, as critics of the > SystemD have been labeled as violating the code of conduct. > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/451692.html I'm not sure what this link is intended to demonstrate. Without reading every message on the referenced thread, I can't tell whether the warning was valid; and without knowing anything about the CoC in question, or the structure of that particular community, I have no idea what authority that poster had to give the warning, and what the implications of doing so are. I certainly don't see any individuals being "labeled" in that post, or any suggestion that the technical merit of their arguments should be ignored. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]