Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91355 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49980 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2016 11:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Feb 2016 11:23:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.20 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.20] ([212.227.17.20:53288] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 00/31-38634-3414CC65 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 06:23:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.101] ([84.187.25.43]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LhB9P-1aC6Az2fwN-00oV0W; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:23:34 +0100 To: Yasuo Ohgaki , "internals@lists.php.net" References: Message-ID: <56CC4136.1080503@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:23:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ldSqHcyawGUDWrENrwKx+JvrFbsLVc5+h63o07zRxw0yIQrKPur am/Vk38qfhRvx8tqBDlrFOgEDrDzurtGRsfj3Gs6mDOlu2v5JuW7qF6Oi94VlWW5/9xXoKZ 7kjYjGuVARn8pKDLz/H0M9FXjWUW7BPR+Ep3q0chnV4NQE0KvHW8HEi4vWJEoDKQ9PG3HMQ Ob+mdpGH9rWA8r5fbV6Fg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:gKNUDP+vEm0=:kRYI76A9cwHdEzDk0QQcKg 2FG03o6lXuyiqc66ZQBGR2sjTjCt3EXr0TVuq99drwbi4DmB9pTjVU+LhIuH900Eb3tu5Tfmf c1M1VRqLEXkLBdvilZZrqE9GjlPtRw520zI+JtfZnw3N2cmWyA8hBHdC0QKlPLDA+u5LtOZ4N HSXTBCcGyCekedGhxge7dgZP0ubiiw+j7pUFmUKBSzfxcrQKzoxa4U5L23KLr15HkAQyFtJzF mKCh4Q/6TSbwq5IXCEcYpF7UItXV9xMOoWIbVmmEdNfcz1QJ5hdTvr8fjKkGnvRq8J+VkfVjJ GQOstRysXjutebESgvc7F7+MZrCSnofjV7EMan8twWGxcpjW6oLzC7bLZSSgS0eQ/JaKCEWIU 0itaoa21F/j7MTxmlctmv6jzkymoCk2W3pju4YYHkmqB03EjEWv+UtndKBEzxUzd0BUfAC94p v2kqZa0g46YRRf4fRjdSalPEgY6raFXathNTdTriO0xYfXP+0VXEl4a3H7pq+9hxyCJ2m8AyO 95pG9huMmyeBjpcqIar6hGDrL+7GOr0nF879c5BQFG/uNFhEz1ILB/tJz+AbXt0KyQbnRrDOV PWqoYAp5iWsWso2tFr7U0lLVUGDxHY5MkVHX/R1QfoecQHaWYhjpuxPDKgwtPIxPLAgmX0uu4 DTYmMTPlS2kYvbYzA9whRXDxJuXDhzJ6jsV7KdcEoIHHH8akgMwEcqC28TQxZE0MBmtfq8vSH 16Lc1eUuX4aQI1VXJuK2KwVjuOhW2XbfRPnTce1gb17+8cPjCFQ2XJWRlk0UNy7KSnJN2GHyW if2pC5J Subject: Re: PRNG: Raise warning and/or provide better pseudo random generator? From: cmbecker69@gmx.de (Christoph Becker) On 23.02.2016 at 11:41, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Actual range could be determined by PHP_RAND_MAX/PHP_MT_RAND_MAX, but > I heard Windows' PHP_RAND_MAX is only 2^15. Is this correct? Yes, see . > Any comments for adding out of range warnings to rand()/mt_rand()? If > nobody has comment on this, I'll write RFC for additional warnings. > Anyone prefer to extend rand()/mt_rand() for 64bit OSes? See also the discussion for ; it might make sense to disallow such ranges in the long run (i.e. for PHP 8), in which case we might want to raise deprecated notices instead of warnings now. -- Christoph M. Becker