Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91350 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7735 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2016 22:14:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Feb 2016 22:14:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=scott@paragonie.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=scott@paragonie.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain paragonie.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: scott@paragonie.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.172 mail-ob0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.172] ([209.85.214.172:36067] helo=mail-ob0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D7/BB-25165-7588BC65 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:14:48 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id gc3so177547786obb.3 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 14:14:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paragonie-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lsJldv9PeML5/hCzaR8krWzXTnTLrjAY/ewvxQCYY/4=; b=rzBAjKhl6pRkvfkzLbWqimQ7Xyf4Cfc2DYhfdoI9lNJa3T7Myux/sPERqOYt95fvwR 7XOtvfZynBIBbnbX+tHl7R0dE0sWhhTBR7SzXzBoZWuJKs1oNceRWAn9gf785UO8Fq4C fQdYISHL/jcTjg6xjkoF6RWMH3cUIrq3vf/5/WmjR4IEYJfw5MWhYLOPXlEMGFsKHOMd 1vP1BpezLkWq2ZOY5vdaDA45Zbo0oV4gUDvxVscP87mLW8ADLNDDkOOlbuEDJD/4yAuV rZOMUhmsN4HAMUN3yItcGf6aJPV31Q90/ZEFBgJaqCDp9LpaZ5DhQ6lWJyrjmXznALr8 dUsw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lsJldv9PeML5/hCzaR8krWzXTnTLrjAY/ewvxQCYY/4=; b=C0moaqFysSDxK4knIybIFwmto6RmS6GzQlZY/OkoA8ER+6uep1lyxyT4h0vOk/tOlU aWqqWOcDkHRR+OuAzGBiElwKb40fX73M+1yXoiuRlXhGlODYA24cxn/Zxh0JUY2DpMy+ X0v4DGmxt6DtsYllR5U12+tW+pwj9yE4Xb6DW/t62mwZdamRpw8dvFu0Ohg0dk/OwAia IsmdJEAmeNn8VgPr3mAvpZ7GADmNVOqxaFCFxWR5jkEWZhgaRqGM5teE5m30Ld7o5ciK HxL9Qvb3WPH1VmeteSRifb3oW2Yt+Cxe1FjUkf0t8uS1u1unhqBUtmYmvH/21DIOcxGw /zZw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQpzKFh7eW1cQpH59a3/Sk1gbJLMS0aq+5Yl5rrAYqQCRysF6NERGF2/uRpgueXh509owyeiJ6aEYMscg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.59.37 with SMTP id w5mr24765501oeq.44.1456179285000; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 14:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.157.10.80 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 14:14:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: Andrey Andreev , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PRNG: Raise warning and/or provide better pseudo random generator? From: scott@paragonie.com (Scott Arciszewski) On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi Andrey, > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Andrey Andreev wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >>> >>> >>> IMO, we should provide better pseudo random generators than now. >> >> >> We already have a better PRNG in random_int(). > > randon_int() is _not_ a alternative of rand()/mt_rand() as they cannot > produce the same pseudo random numbers. e.g. Games etc requires > the same pseudo random numbers. > > Regards, > > -- > Yasuo Ohgaki > yohgaki@ohgaki.net > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > Have I shared this here? https://github.com/paragonie/seedspring Warning: May summon Cthulhu if deployed to production. Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises