Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91349 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5321 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2016 21:43:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Feb 2016 21:43:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.176 mail-yw0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.176] ([209.85.161.176:35845] helo=mail-yw0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 02/5B-25165-1018BC65 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:43:30 -0500 Received: by mail-yw0-f176.google.com with SMTP id e63so130378352ywc.3 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:43:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=s/9GYbXctGul+hjJTwDikGgB53Xk/AdodyI5xda37AI=; b=dN4ksXCWWQbNOUdSj+I8O1+fp+yTEDnkxtrFBtrvj/HheTD1l/Yxpvo1dhjsMWF4dD h+xVK65b61Ozia2U0x+KyV59OLFyk+JD+3lEWEm0YUQf01i/CYYcmN4x+thLc7EGCKg8 SmpJ8NRbuVCF9iPHy/SyH3GiEMvewi1pzZS9dpqNecBw2J0poMCt715GuMhGwArQNcka ysmkORXbsBUXR6h4hg1RjZ9HZb66x84K/o2fxXu6aw+BiDRbw++53l3Vd3XNSlGddIVe sqbFPwtmX4UEj1aQ3NGM9lJ+6vDlzLP4CLpStkt+SER0GLc8sGZgVUzSPnCIxBHcRpH8 WrSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=s/9GYbXctGul+hjJTwDikGgB53Xk/AdodyI5xda37AI=; b=CaTwycfSsq/iOQCvVjUMM+52Uq1en/lzgbXwbIPl/N6a6USxdrhgsFRaCnDHpgXxFw ILnI/PKnQOK7R/1amam8SZrMmBRbvanaI8OQM6mbh9p1o7pmPDFYicGlY3RXqw6t/GrV USL2eFUTspUcRw1eqQp9mdIjl/U1GdOV23IJp5OI3HzXG2909FuCGVhLnq/pfg3nDEBu VtknS35Vq9zaREG6kWe4DGoIBdfdUCPpRAay/H+vqBewJzHTQ6I296+WR9MeryCYAR+m FlqyVwZTZPV1YtsfH0TUyhzPRkWMLGbtnHWJHkBNVMudpP0LWUU9Dkr6UasJa1MuzFWQ XAOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTJBZaS7j7umxEjrfOsx/56ZfGuDwhdPwYuan5+FJMr7PmLn9mvLhOzG+Gvgtq3kqYVUeOMbUnDLfhXVQ== X-Received: by 10.13.208.2 with SMTP id s2mr7270622ywd.86.1456177407193; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:43:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.129.109.22 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:42:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 06:42:47 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: is_SOCVZs7V7XKkSDeSBMTWVpg4 Message-ID: To: Andrey Andreev Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PRNG: Raise warning and/or provide better pseudo random generator? From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) Hi Andrey, On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Andrey Andreev wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >> >> >> IMO, we should provide better pseudo random generators than now. > > > We already have a better PRNG in random_int(). randon_int() is _not_ a alternative of rand()/mt_rand() as they cannot produce the same pseudo random numbers. e.g. Games etc requires the same pseudo random numbers. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net