Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91301 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19509 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2016 23:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Feb 2016 23:31:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.43 mail-pa0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.43] ([209.85.220.43:36083] helo=mail-pa0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/75-27267-E6456C65 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 18:31:59 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id yy13so39058728pab.3 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:31:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZWn0hg7fmIfHiadP/1KVp33/enq3TJuNzAjSdB0mZxw=; b=e+SE5MtDbtJG6Lntb9Dm8uL5w2AqRsbVR1tda1Q3s3ryXaHb+dRT/1QDBt5Ua+4A8m H0BOahAH5MT+t41W+xY3/b9k7yUfbfMhgKEM/xveFNqK1PbUOa0Pj2CzJ7QPc8FGzfhf 1CxkB2XHdW+ya8QySKl46VbTIoxu1/qcNQzkUbQUlsQ8z3dq1UEaZTGnw2j91bhzNL91 6ZIPY8mPj1yI+vz2Q6hSf8hqSu09E9vUHanYAf3FOpWsgmt5nmlopLuioBbhH0SItTLX p34SPBx/iBdVsakQPNej+ezWU9MrNQFMnmdKZJFx6HpXBDpA/4VsSiu9BJVEgDv1ubYd vd+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZWn0hg7fmIfHiadP/1KVp33/enq3TJuNzAjSdB0mZxw=; b=RVyXw5gDtsSDwa28EqNlB8h7B5L2Zvlo5YDPgz3hfKZ2nmtz/9mPkjCSXid9BFk77d eQ3AzqaayIuUyxz/bBQZnnVN8+eQuuYLph+zHqeUFpsOh3q6Wax86Lv3/LqbthZgIHYz oHlEl+x3y8r8ZcOKXmNZ5RWr8E9JtjnVZromP6P9DjbmCr39UdCag+44TDAvAYpH7gGA HiZmzZLCLVWXUzzKHfkFC5Vb2YrdC2Upm93N/S8hAelf45ASULlJEITHqv0C5KsbqSJi v6dHSCJp3ABbg4jCM0tIQDaX9fLs5vnbLRc6NFV4xQqRBdo/Ko3uiSi/0W2R7h7vMXzs BgKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORNg0T4VZ/OvLerCwkt9YZQWghrpFNGstmCchYI4kf8IYYRjmFI1yHPomvJT7lcmQ== X-Received: by 10.66.142.226 with SMTP id rz2mr13961483pab.104.1455838316308; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air.local (tan1.corp.wikimedia.org. [198.73.209.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dz8sm12806975pab.19.2016.02.18.15.31.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:31:55 -0800 (PST) To: Colin O'Dell , Zeev Suraski References: <20.E2.62769.79C16C65@pb1.pair.com> <8B0196E0-D76C-49D4-904A-7FBA9B549AFB@zend.com> Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Message-ID: <56C6546A.3070603@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:31:54 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC Proposal] var keyword deprecation/removal From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > But is there a strong reason to keep it forever, especially considering its Yes. It's the same reason - "no reason to remove". When we have action which on one hand has no tangible benefit and on the other hand has tangible harm, we should not do it. > decline in usage? Perhaps by targeting it for removal in 8.0 we can > mitigate the impact of such a BC break while taking one small step in > improving the language over time. By the time of 8.0 nothing would be different from today. 8.0 is not some magic number by which old code ceases to exist. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com